Pump-ups

[TonyL]

I had Crossman 766 and model 1, Sharp Innovas and an Ace. The Sharps being very accurate, mine were .22

My Crismans and Sharps have all been accurate. The Sharps being better, as you'd expect. The only thing that let the Innova and Ace down a little was the trigger, as the pull weight increased with the number of pumps. The Victory, which I've not owned, was unaffected as the trigger was of a different design. Used on three pumps I found the Innova / Ace very nice to use. I'd love to see a modern Ace relaunched.

[TonyL]

I have an early smooth bored 760 (?) with wood front grip, and the blow-off valve makes for a unique quick firing cycle.
Really fun and fascinating to shoot, but the size and smooth bore barrel lets it down.
A bigger quality built pumper with blow-off valve and a better trigger would be a nice gun.

That'd be the Sharp Ace and Victory, then.

Oooooh.....and the Daystate Sportsman was BEAUTIFUL.

What was John Bowkett's pump-up rifle(s) called?

It's a shame that the Webley Rebel / Puma Innova attempts a few years ago missed the mark.

I haven't checked recently, but Crosman were certainly still selling the 392 until recently. Wonder if they're still available? They were, obviously, of the later "C9 cassette trigger" type and had gone to synthetic stocks (with the comb reportedly too high for open sight use) but, if still available, would be the most solid of the modern pump-up rifles.

[Hsing-ee]

In an ancient air gun world there was a bloke who built his own pump up, I think it was a sidelever like the Sharp Pan Target. It was a good looking thing, the bloke was ex-Army so he’d made it with an aperture sight instead of a scope rail. Ideal for you Tony.

A competent engineer could make a pump-up based on one of the common designs. You just need a lathe and some patience.. use a Record trigger unit and the rest of it is just cylindrical things.

[Neil54]

Mick always fancied making a SSP from an XS78.

[Hsing-ee]

Mick always fancied making a SSP from an XS78.

That’s a wizard scheme!

A full length pump tube with an under lever concealed in a hamster. Hope he has a shot at it some time.

[Shed tuner]

PH Dragon. Job done

[oldskoolzzz]

Great thread Tone

I arrived pretty late on scene with pumpers I snubbed them for decades thinking they weren’t my thing

But as it turns out, I actually really like them and ironically I found one of the more lesser appreciated versions (Rebel) actually great fun even if it was a tad rough and cheap cheap feeling.

As you know I’ve done plenty of SSP Pistols and still love them but regards the SSP rifle that’s something I’ve not tried yet although I would really like to try a 753S

https://www.daisy.com/product/daisy-...el-753s-elite/

[Hsing-ee]

As you know I’ve done plenty of SSP Pistols and still love them but regards the SSP rifle that’s something I’ve not tried yet although I would really like to try a 753S

https://www.daisy.com/product/daisy-...el-753s-elite/

753S does look excellent value, wonder what the trigger is like?

[madcarlos]

I had the similar wood stock Model 1 for a few years. The naughty previous owner had it shooting over the limit and I had to get him to turn it down. That was nice enough. Should have kept it. Despite the wood stock that thin allow clamshell receiver will never give them "bombproof solidity" that the Sheridans, Benjamins, Setras, Crosman 140 and Sharp Ace and Victory had, though.

I only ever put a few shots through it every couple of weeks to be honest. Struggling to use any of the guns at the moment , It's back in it's box but yes same here , If sold on I may regret it, For what it's worth I just aswell keep it as a part collection.

[WILBA]

Lovely. Yes, your Backpacker often comes into these threads, sir, and sounds lovely. I'd love one. My 1377 is awesomely accurate (Phase III with steel breech, stock and small scope) and I love it to bits. But it isn't a Backpacker.

My back packet clone is pretty good to buy it's only 4ftlb. Don't know enough to go grinding the valve. The real backpacker with the. .177cal barrel on it around 8+

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Mick always fancied making a SSP from an XS78.

i made a msp from a 78 using an old bulkfill tube similar to Porky Yorkies and a SeanQ stock
At the moment i'm selling most of my pump up rifles so have about 6 sheridans inc a silver to sell quite a few 766's and similar inc a 2200 first and a whaley
i have a few backpackers 1389's along with spare stocks and foregrips
also have an lr700 available but can't remember caliber plus a sharp victory in .177

[Cannon Fodder]

I loved my crosman powermaster 66 until a couple of weeks ago, the screw that holds the pump assembly to the barrel shroud worked itself loose and fell out at the range resulting in the shroud sliding off, found it and reassembled it but its been shooting a couple of inches low since and I don't have the adjustment in the scope to compensate. Not worked out if the scope chose that exact moment to go bad (seems unlikely) or if something else has caused it, the shroud doesn't go quite snug to the receiver but I can't remember if it did in the first place. Really I'm just putting off taking it apart as I seem to remember its one of those where you open the clam shell and the internals scatter for the shadows under spring pressure.

[Segata]

I use my 880 for indoor use on 1 pump as it allows me to get Rifle practice on wet days or when it's dark without risking too much damage but remains just as capable outside if I up the Pumps too.

[Brad3]

I repeat my earlier comments that it was a mistake to stop the development of pump ups due to the rise of the PCP. It was all there to be had. I had a Victory running over 10 on 4 pumps. No power curves, bottles etc. I'm not saying the 4 pump Victory or 5 pump Innova had achieved Nirvana but I think the 1 or 2 pump rifle (mass production) was just around the corner, had the development carried on.

[Hsing-ee]

I repeat my earlier comments that it was a mistake to stop the development of pump ups due to the rise of the PCP. It was all there to be had. I had a Victory running over 10 on 4 pumps. No power curves, bottles etc. I'm not saying the 4 pump Victory or 5 pump Innova had achieved Nirvana but I think the 1 or 2 pump rifle (mass production) was just around the corner, had the development carried on.

I don’t understand the physics of it, but a multi pump version of the Feinwerkbau 600 match rifle would have been unbeatable.

If one pump could make 600 fps and 6fpe, how many more would be needed to get 780fps and 11fpe for a target gun like that?