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Walther dominator Lightstream FFP, s200 with Viper 10x44 - Buxted HFT My A4 Targets - HFT Kill zone sizes
All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
BARPC
Basingstoke Air Rifle & Pistol Club. Founded 1975
Lots and lots of luvly donuts and swearing
"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons"
how about the shooter forgets to release the safety , as far as he/she is concerned the shot was taken or not ?
Very true Cliff & i have had the situation happen to me at a shoot, i was prone & another shooter was slightly behind me on the next peg, loads a pellet & it accidently went off, don't know what happened but it went about 3 feet in front of me Of course I just carried on, knocked down the target & then asked my shooting partner WT F happened.. he didn't know but it was bleedy close enough for me to watch my back on the next few shots
OK as Scooby said earlier, if the gun goes "bang" its a shot, end off, no more goes, no retakes, no excuses, all score ZERO........in any comp we should all adhere to these rules, it just isnt fair if you dont! Why should some guy get another go, kill the target and get 2 more points and end up higher on the results?
I know it has happened before (recently) and will happen again Im sure, but I hope not as often in comps as Steve says "that are badge winners"
I love my badgers..
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In both scenarios, the gun is over the firing line and therefore considered safe and has not been sighted. Discharge in any other circumstance would be considered a breach of safety. If its a genuine accidental discharge i'd allow a reload.
As I've said in my first reply, we're supposed to take part in these events for fun. If you've just driven 200 miles to be disquailified or had a chance of a win in those circumstances thwarted for whats effectively an accident then I think you'd have a right to be pissed off.
IMO there's far to many rules being introduced for the sake of introducing rules.
When Hunter FT started you could use any rifle as long as it was legal, you couldn't adjust the gun or any part of it, you had to be touching a peg, not sitting and not resting rifle on bean bag and targets were placed anywhere between 7-45 yards (or thereabouts) with a minimum of a 25mm kill. If you sighted the gun and it discharged, the target either fell for a 2, you plated for a 1 or you missed. Simple
I make that 7 rules. It was simple and didn't cause controversy. Everyone knew where they stood and no one pushed the rules that where in place (that I recall anyway)
It was more fun in my mind, you turned up to shoot with like minded folk who just wanted to knock over some targets and if they got a good score then great. Clearing a course was unheard of and people didn't expect to get 59 or 60 ex 60.
Rose tinted specs maybe or I'm just getting old and dissolusioned but it did seem less stressful back in the early to mid '90s.
Bob
All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
BARPC
Basingstoke Air Rifle & Pistol Club. Founded 1975
I personally think that that would be mean spirited and unnecessary. The safety issue here is that the rifle is pointing down the range at the time and not at anyone. On more than one occasion whilst doing HFT and on aim, I've taken up the first stage and decided to adjust my position/move a tiny bit whilst forgetting to release the pressure on the trigger and ended up squeezing off before I meant to. On one occasion it earned me a zero and the other a 1 pointer. Do you consider that to be an ND as well? It's still an unintentional shot.
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son" Dean Wormer.
I think there's a subtle distinction here. If the shooter is behaving in a controlled manner, and has the rifle under control and pointing down range, but happens to pull the trigger when they are not quite ready then I'm happy with a doughnut
If the shooter is making a major change in position i.e. in the act of lying down (or sitting in FT) and a loaded non-safe rifle is being waved around and then discharged it's a very different issue
It's much better not to load until you are in position ...
Regards
Dave
In one case yes but in the other as you are lying down i doubt its over the line, having said that it should be pointing downrange anyway.
I understand if the rifle is pointing downrange but i dont care if you have driven 500 miles and are 10 points clear, if you show a blatent disregard for gun safety, not accidental, careless, then you should be disqualified. Try to get the person 3 pegs down with one eye to sympathise that you have driven 200 miles
Good point well made Kes, my safety comes off when i am in position and have sighted the shot, its the last thing i do before pulling the trigger, admittedly, not all rifles have safetys,
Atvb
Cliff
Unique S400 Classic with MTC Viper 10x44