Nah, Weihrauches have soul. AA s are soul-lessly efficient
Ask any Weihrauch owner.
According to one American writer, at 40 yards the TX200SR can shoot 11mm groups; the Weihrauch HW77 can shoot 14mm groups.
In terms of HFT is that a significant difference?
Nah, Weihrauches have soul. AA s are soul-lessly efficient
Ask any Weihrauch owner.
I have shot 8mm groups with an untuned but well shot .22 hw77 at 40 yds,bench rested at Cobham club. I know guys on here who can single hole all day long with a tx sr or a well tuned 77 in .177.
The sr will not be eligible for the (springer) recoiling class,you would be in the open class.
Kindest regards,
Graham
hw77k m8 prefer mine over my old tx anyday
Springer fanatic
id take the hw77 anyday excellent rifle of its time and still is in anyones hands that grew up using springers.
the tx200 sr is a fine gun aswell but those damn germans could and still do build excedingly good guns.
atb ian
theres another one for the pot !
Absolutely correct and a very important distinction. You are comparing apples with pears here methinks!Originally Posted by baxterbasics
Point well made about the classes. With this in mind, and I doubt my thinking will be popular, what's the point of the TX200SR? Don't get me wrong, I think they are a smashing rifle but what on earth can you actually do with one? At one point I really wanted one but after some thinking I dismissed the idea. Too heavy to hunt with and not exactly competetive within the competition classes they fall into. What exactly do people do with them?
Are they reserved to club plinking and the pure joy of actually owning them?
Chris
Fabricatum diem, pvnc!
Hmm... back in the days when I had a rather large (embarrasing) collection of rifles, the question "if you had to get rid of them ALL except one, which one would you keep?" came up at the club.Originally Posted by sam vimes
No competition - it HAD to be the TX200SR. My reasoning was that it was the only non-PCP rifle that I had that was as accurate as an accurate thing, but didn't need too much input from me to be that accurate. It also had the benefit of being that accurate without having to drag a divers bottle and charging gear around every time I wanted to shoot. It was also something I felt confident about being able to service and maintain myself, without fancy tools.
I sold it quite shortly afterwards Why? Because it had no logical place in my competition armoury. If I wanted precharged accuracy, I had a Ripley that was much easier to cock and load. If I wanted the visceral feel of a proper spring rifle, I had the 97K. I don't hunt, so the weight wasn't really an issue.
It DID have a habit of needing more attention than any other springer I've owned to keep it on song... the rail needed regular attention, and it did chew up and spit out a couple of slightly inadequate scopes.
That was my personal take on the SR, for what it's worth
Paul.
Just for the record. Despite logic suggesting otherwise I still quite fancy an SR. Despite the fact that I can't for the life of me think what I'll do with one.
Fabricatum diem, pvnc!
HW77 v TX SR I have and shoot both (look in my signature) they are both as accurate as any pre charged I have owned (this includes a Anschutz in full FT mode).
But the SR of the 2 is the easyer to shoot.
Were as the the 77 is more rewarding. You know as soon as the trigger breaks if you have hit or pulled the shoot. Which I dont seem to feel the same when shooting a pcp.
Ask any of the guys at Bisley on Wednesday night as I was hitting a 20mm kill at 55yrds both sitting and nealing .
I dont mean that to sound big headed. Just to show that it can be done as any one who was there would confirm.
Cheers Dean
I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. Winston Churchill
Chris - stop dithering and do it . You'll never know unless you try it.
And I agree with every word of Dean's post. Sums up how I felt about my SR too.
Paul.
I was Knealing/standing next to Dean on Wednesday night AND i can confirm that he was hitting 20mm kills with his 77.(Swine )
But confession time Dean-it has a stunning ft stock,ken turner trigger that breaks like glass and i suspect you were tailgating my shots
The point is that the SR in reasonably skilled hands will equal the performance of a PCP without the issues of power curve and the need for feeding with compressed air. As we all know, recoiling springers need a higher level of skill to extract the best from them. These days a quality SR will set you back around £350. What PCP with charging kit can you buy for that kind of money??Originally Posted by sam vimes
Graham trust me you made all the differance .Originally Posted by baxterbasics
But you are correct the 77 is a bit special and for what it cost I could have had the choice of any number of high end pcp,s.
But the satisfation of shooting it just make all the cost worth it.
Cheers Dean
I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught. Winston Churchill
i own both 77's in .177 and .22 and think they were the last nail in the british airgun manufacturing of the 80's (i shot a sirocco in 85 so that says it all; and gave it back to its owner pretty damn quick!) my point is the 77 and the fairly newist 97 will never be as collectable as an SR. My SR is kens own creation, the one he wanted to sell as normal spec. I only shoot to the best of my ability with the SR.( is now 14yrs old)....but i love all my hw's but lets face it, the brits and ken especially got one over the germans for a change