just to add what i have to say about the 4-14 by 44 menace after only owning 1 for 3.5 hrs.i did a deal with a guy at the club who i got the gun+scope combo from as i could not get on with the hawke nighteye 3x9 by 50.i have owned a mtc viper 10x44 and i found the falcon to be as good.i shot a 99 today so it must be pretty good .very clear lenses only downside as said is it does weigh a bit.noticable on my s410 the difference is