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  1. #1
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    BigAl,

    You may well be right regarding the 16xx series actions not having the belleville washers.

    Bob,

    If that's the case then kindly disregard the information regarding spacers - may be of use to someone else though!

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    The 16xx guns were a bit of a halfway stage between the old 14xx series guns and the newer 18xx and then 19xx series guns. If the two bedding screws have a stack of dished washers (5or 6 IIRC) that are fixed in place on the shank then you have Belville washers. These are designed to keep the torque constant as enviromental conditions change. for example as the humidity changes the wood of the stock swells or contracts, changing the torque. Many shooters will replace the washers with a spacer, although I suppose you could just use much shorter machine screws rather than bolts.
    As to ammunition choice, I hope the following is helpful:

    ___Make___ Average ___SD__ Number of cards

    Overall

    Eley Match _95.06_ __1.95_ 112
    Geco_____ _94.36_ __1.79_ 2

    25 yard

    Eley match _96.28_ __1.66_ 25
    Geco_____ _94.58_ __1.84_ 24


    I have not posted the long range results as it is really stasistically irrlavent as I shot 87 cards with Match and one with Geco. As you can see using quality ammo over a year, in this case 2006/7, gives a 1.7 point per card advantage to the quality ammo even at 25 yards. Also for your information the Geco was all from the same batch, well it was at least allfrom the same case of 5000 rounds. The Eley Match was from two different batches one listed at 1061fps and the last 6 cards 1064fps. If anyone is interested I will have a look at the stats between the batches of match.

    Hope this is of interest.

    Alan
    Last edited by BigAl; 25-10-2009 at 02:44 PM. Reason: getting the formatting correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    The 16xx guns were a bit of a halfway stage between the old 14xx series guns and the newer 18xx and then 19xx series guns.
    Yes, albeit 16xx is a designation that was made up afterwards by shooting nerds - I don't believe Anschutz ever used it. In any case Anschutz marked all the "16xx" serial numbers with an "X"; it's nothing to do with having selected barrels. The poster who said so above is talking b*ll*x. There's an urban legend that they all tended to have better than average barrels, but I don't think there's any conclusive evidence on this and Anschutz, for obvious reasons, isn't saying.
    Last edited by sandy22; 27-10-2009 at 11:31 PM.

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    In any case Anschutz marked all the "16xx" serial numbers with an "X"; it's nothing to do with having selected barrels. The poster who said so above is talking b*ll*x. There's an urban legend that they all tended to have better than average barrels, but I don't think there's any conclusive evidence on this and Anschutz, for obvious reasons, isn't saying.
    There is another factor with the so-called 16xx barrels, to quote from "Ways of the Rifle" Edition 1, pp188:
    Old rifles from the 70s and early 80s were built of higher quality stell. Especial fame is especially accorded to Anschutz barrels with serial numbers between 16xxxx and 19xxxx......
    I have what I always called one of the last 1413s but now see it referred to as a "1613". It has as serial no 177191x, right in the middle of the range above and it was a quite exceptional barrel. I never believed the story about the "x" suffix at the time, but much more recently someone retailed it to me again citing the passge from Ways of the Rifle as justification! Talk about an urban myth!!

    Rutty

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