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Thread: S&W 4" and 6" QUESTION

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    S&W 4" and 6" QUESTION

    I feel I need a CO2 Multi shot in my pistol case and have a wanted add for a S&W 6".

    But the 4" looks really great and is there much difference in velocity and accuracy compared to the 6" model?

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    One of the few cases where 4" beats 6" imho...

    To answer the question, "a bit", but not enough to be worth worrying about if the 4" puts a bigger grin on your face.
    Morally flawed

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    Ive had 2 4 inchers and been very pleased with them.
    Nice balance and quick target acquisition.
    I bought an 8 inch barrel for the first one expecting greater power and accuracy but it was a waste of money as I got neither- but I was able to make plenty of 8 inch jokes.

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    The 6" will give you a slightly higher velocity & flatter trajectory, look for a 4/6 cased set, or even better a 4/6/8 cased set, the 8" is well into
    "Do You Feel Lucky?" territory
    ATB,
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    Nick,
    How did the .22 S&W project go?
    I even got one of those barrel offcuts from the other forum !
    Ian
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    magicniner is offline The Posh Knocking Shop Artist Formerly Known as Nocturnal Nick
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    Ian,
    The .22 is nearly there, I shot a good round of HFT Pistol with it late this year.
    I still have a couple of internal mods to finalise before I can call it confirmed completed, I might get chance to complete the project over the Christmas holiday
    Regards,
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    I have a black S&W 4" and 6" kit. It comes cased with barrel key, and different width foresights. Mine is in good condition, and shoots very well. At 10m it's hard to choose a favorite barrel. But at 20 yards against coke cans the 6" seems to be better (although it may be psycological?)

    I never seem to use it, so I should put it up for sale really...

    ATB
    Phil

    p.s. I have to agree the 8" is not as practical (although it looks like a golf club!)
    Last edited by Rickenbacker; 29-11-2010 at 12:30 AM. Reason: p.s.

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    My work has very kindly provided me with a netbook for the car !!!!
    Now I can keep checking the for the sale section whilst on the road.

    Ian

    ps But there's never 'owt about when you've got the dosh!
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    4" is lighter and a nice balance. 6" is more accurate though. 8" generally regarded as too heavy/front heavy, not so nice to handle.
    Walther CP-2 Match, FAS 604 & Tau 7 target pistols, Smith & Wesson 6" & 4" co2 pistol, Crosman 1377,
    Baikal IZH 53 pistol, Gamo CFX Royal,177, Umarex SA-10 CO2 pistol.

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    Barrels

    I changed from a 4" straight to the 8" and the groups tightened up considerably, (mind you, that is still a big group, I have hit barn doors though)
    I think the best I did was resting on bench and pulled it to 1" at 20yd

    Could be lucky oh, and it was a LOT warmer than now.

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    S&W Update

    My quest is almost complete.
    Bought a S&W with 4" and 6" barrels, thanks Phil
    Also bought a dovetail rail adaptor from Pete/Paladin.
    Is anyone using a red dot on their Smith?
    And I'd to see any custom Smiths especially with wood grips.
    Lastly, looking for a cheap place for spare magazines

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    JSR are the cheapest for S&W mags as far as I have found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayloriand View Post
    My quest is almost complete.
    Bought a S&W with 4" and 6" barrels, thanks Phil...

    Is anyone using a red dot on their Smith?...

    Ian
    Hi Ian

    The revolver is on its way to you. I hope you like it

    If for any reason you don't, send it back and I'll be happy to refund

    Red dots:
    I tried a Walther with 1" body on the 8" S&W - Tunnel way too small.

    Also have a Hawke 30mm which I've tried on my HW45 - again, for me, tunnel vision!

    Out of interest I tried the 30mm Hawke on my Skan R32 - much better field of view due to the much shorter eye relief (obviously). And was great fun for informal target practice (tin cans).

    Dot size on the Hawks 30 is good for pistols, but for me I'd want to try the 40mm version to see if it had much increase in FOV... or maybe one of those holographic pistol sights?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jawlock View Post
    I changed from a 4" straight to the 8" and the groups tightened up considerably, (mind you, that is still a big group, I have hit barn doors though)
    I think the best I did was resting on bench and pulled it to 1" at 20yd

    Could be lucky oh, and it was a LOT warmer than now.
    I think your 1" group at 20 yards rested is impressive.

    As always - if you shoot it better, its better for you!

    For sure more weight at the front is going to slow down movement at the muzzle (both during the hold and the 'flip' during the firing cycle), and a longer sight base with the 8" barrel is always gonna help with alignment errors.

    At one time I had two revolver bodies and the three length barrels to play with.
    I can't find the numbers right now, but I remember chrono results were IRO 10-20 FPS increase to the next barrel length.
    This could be a clue as to why I (like many others) didn't favor the 8" barrel. Because perhaps increased 'barrel time' = increased hold sensivity, and generally magnified 'punishment' of my poor tecnique!

    For me, the 6" barrel added a good 5 paces to 'can-busting' over the 4" barrel.

    As I remember it, the 8" barrel (with me behind it!) was sometimes good, sometimes poor.
    Last edited by Rickenbacker; 07-12-2010 at 01:12 AM. Reason: edit

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    Thanks Phil,
    Looking forward to the Smith.
    Ian
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