4.49 or 4.50 - what should I use and why?

[silvershooter]

Hi zooma, I just tested again and I quickly found 10 pellets that would not pass through at 4.7 , approx 1 in 4 or 5. Yes they are fine in my FWB C25.

[RobinC]

Hi zooma, I just tested again and I quickly found 10 pellets that would not pass through at 4.7 , approx 1 in 4 or 5. Yes they are fine in my FWB C25.

I've just mic'ed up some 4.50 R10's and they are spot on at 4.5. 4.7's? I think you get what you pay for.
The answer to the original post is what shoots best in your barrel. Steyr, we visited the factory last year they had just about everything on the shelf, sizes, makes, even some real cheapo's, we asked what they used and the answer, anything! Whatever the local shop has in stock! That said both my Steyrs were tested with 4.49's but what make? could have been anything! Walther use RWS but we were told mainly because they are in the same estate.
Robin

[zooma]

Thanks Robin,

This new evidence just about sums up what I am thinking, - it makes no real difference if you buy 4.49 or 4.50, but the better qaulity pellets such as the R10 are the way to go for the most consistant results.

Unless we have any last minute convincing evidence to the contrary the title of this last thread contribution could be the final conclusion to the debate (?).

However, what we also have is no conclusion as to why the better qaulity manufacturers bother to mark-up the pellet tins 4.48, 4.49, 4.50, 4.51.

Maybe the only helpful reason for doing this is to confirm that all of the pellets in the tin are of the same dimension as each other, and this serves to confirm the consistency of the contents inside the tin.

[Cones]

Just a little more practical evidence that it does not really matter at 10m.


Guess which pellets in my LP10E?

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...1478Custom.jpg

Yes, the cheap ones. Geco's

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...1477Custom.jpg

The nines are all me, not the pellets.

HTH

Mark

[silvershooter]

Nice shooting.That would do me, I will stick with the cheapo pellets.

[zooma]

Nice shooting Mark, and based on that evidence a reasonable conclusion from Silvershooter to stick with his choice of budget pellets (Hobby)

- but this only shows that good results can be had from less expensive pellets, and that in itself is a very useful reference for us all, and one that Mark has already eluded to in his previous contribution to this debate.

However, the question as to why the manufacturers bother to measure and pack their premium grade pellets of the same type in tins certified to be 4.48, 4.49. 4.50 or 4.51 etc still remains a mystery to me, and even more so when the results we have seen tend to suggest there is firstly no practical reason for the manufacturers to do this, and even less practical reason for the shooters to buy a certain size when they can all work as well as each other - not to be confused with weight or brand that may suite one type of pistol or rifle better than another - or maybe this (weight of pellet) is another "can of worms" to discuss here?

I am guessing the Geco pellets (as usd by Mark) are nominally 4.50, but the tins have no labels on the underside to confirm this? (sorry, I have never used them, so I am only guessing).

[Cones]

Thanks,

That was my best ever 10 shot card.

Yes, the Gecos are not marked for head size.

I suspect the 4.49 / 4.50 designation is more to do with which machine or which die set was used to form the pellets.

I know it is not so critical with a 10m pistol, but even the same make and head size can make a huge difference to the groups at longer ranges with an air rifle. That is why it is often important to get pellets made from the same batch number. With JSB Exact the batch number is written on the same label as the head size.

I suspect with a pistol the only way to check for that TINY improvement between pellets at 10m would be to clamp the pistol and then test fire it at say 25 yards indoors? But I still think the shooter will always be the weakest part of the whole system accuracy.

HTH

Mark

[silvershooter]

Hi zooma, I just measured about 20 Gecos, all were over 4.5 ,some would not pass through at 4.6, btw Gecos are even cheaper than Hobbys.

[j_potter]

couldn't help but notice that the target's dated the first of april

[Cones]

It is.

But it was shot in the evening.

Thanks

Mark