I am surprised, I would have thought any of the latest generation of full match air rifles with diopter sights from Walther, Feinwerkbau, Anshultz, Steyr etc would give a clear advantage over a standard air rifle with open sights and recoil.
This latest generation of match air rifles are also designed for free standing use and I would say they would be easier to use and to gain a better result more consistantly.
Last edited by zooma; 17-10-2011 at 08:48 PM.
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Hi Thimble House
I don't know how much bell target shooting you have done, but I have been shooting bell target for over 40 years, and I have to say there is a remarkable difference shooting with a pcp match rifle to an ordinary spring rifle, when the Feinwerkbau 300 series came in we had to give a special trophy for those that were still shooting with webley supertargets etc. The new generation match rifles are far superior in all areas with fit, balance and superb triggers you would be at a distinct disadvantage with an ordinary spring rifle.
Jim
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Hi Jim,
Your comments make a lot of sense to me and I can understand why the PCP rifles would be a clear advantage over the "springers" etc.
I think we will start by finding or making a good Bell Target and see what interest we get locally, and if needs be consider some sort of local handicap system , or just have a different class for the top notch match rifles maybe.
Has anyone already got a handicap system in place to "even out" the differences in performance gains from these rifles, or even run different classes for different types of rifle etc?
...or does everyone just use what they have and look to upgrade when or if funds permit.
If everyone is in the same class no matter what rifle they use, I can imagine the satisfaction to be had by posting good results with the less expensive rifles, so maybe this alone is a good reason to just have the one class ( apart from the occasional "vintage" event now and again).
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Walton Lions are the ones featured on the BBC: http://www.waltonlions.co.uk/
As most have said, rules and distances vary from league to league. In the Swindon League we shoot paper diagrams at 7yds but it all goes back to bell target origins - www.swindon177.co.uk
Whatever the distance and whatever the rules it's all good fun
Sorry my defence was comparing match rifles.
ie FWB 300, 600 springers to the PCP. Yes there is a major difference to recoil rifles.
I have been shooting Bell now 34 years. Tonight I outshoot several FWB 700's and Ansultz 8002.
With my FWB 300s. At the end of the day its the shooter and the right gun for them, not how fancy it looks.
Last edited by thimblehouse; 18-10-2011 at 11:09 PM.
Hi
Yes I would agree with you, at the level of bell target shooting there is not much difference in a 300s and a 700 Feinwerkbau just because the standard of shooting in a hobby varies too much, if you give a novice a 700 and an experienced 10 metre shooter a 300s there would be only one outcome, but saying that you would not win an Olympic ten metre gold with a 300s, how ever good you are, there is just no comparison in the two rifles. One of the biggest differences is the amount of effort in cocking the rifle between shots,
I think you will find the feinwerbau 600 is not a spring rifle, it is a single stroke pneumatic. No offence meant it is just that many bell target leagues do use the old spring rifles and don't allow the modern match rifles.
Jim
Sorry yes I stand corrected about the 600 series but you still have to cock them like a springer.
In the short amount of shots in Bell as you say no clear advantage.
PCP would help if you have a large number of shots to shoot in a sort time as there is far less effort required to keep reloading.
Happy to help anyone looking to start a league and add to the list on belltarget.com
Last edited by thimblehouse; 20-10-2011 at 04:05 PM.
The Bell target I bought from Red Bob has now arrived and looks very well made - I am impressed - even though I have nothing else to compare it with as it is also the first one I have ever seen!
One basic question I forgot to ask - how high from the ground do I mount the bell target from the floor?
The measurement to the cntre of the bull is what I need.
Thanks - Bob.
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Hi
Five feet to the centre of the bull in our league, and seven yards ( 21 feet ) to the oche. I understand that some leagues shoot over 6 yards?
Jim