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    I did these a whiles back.

    3 rough Webley pistols and an uneasy truce

    I seem to have a soft spot for really cheap and rough guns ---and have bought a few to stop them being broken up. Here is a brief outline of 3 of them.
    (1) Alloy frame Webley Premier Mk2 -----this thing was up for sale on here and I got it at a resonable price to stop it being broken up. From memory the barrel catch was going a bit too far forwards, the end of the cylinder had been drilled and had a grub screw in, that had been filled with foil and a blob of paint to hide it. The rearsight screw and thread on the frame was buggered. The trigger adusting screw was bolloxed as the locknut had not been undone to adjust it and the lockscrew was bolloxed as well. I tried to drill it but made a bit of a mess. Anyhow, the gun was got working roughly and then Jon Budd had a play with it. He got the power up to something like 2.7ftlb. I think he put some Jb weld in the transfer port and then drilled a smaller hole. He tried an O ring and a leather washer in it. When I got it back I refitted the Ptfe one as I liked the feel of the gun more. I asked one of the bbs good guys to make me a stud that was 4BA at one end and 3BA at the other and I put that in the rearsight hole and then tapped a knurled adjuster off a scope to 3BA to make an adjuster you could do with your fingers. I tapped the trigger adjuster hole to 4BA (hard to get in) and had a cheese headed screw with a point on the end. I fitted a spring under the head in the absence of a lock screw. This now plinks ok

    (2) A Webey Hurricane that was cheap, but rough, with most of the rear sight broken, no safety catch, a knackered main spring, totally knackered trigger spring and breech seal ---and no trigger guard. I managed to get a rear sight together using another broken sight. I had a trigger guard spare so fitted that and a new breech seal. A better used mainspring was fitted and the safety was left off (I never use them anyhow). This one must be well worn as I didn't "tune" the trigger. When It was put together it felt quite "slingy" but plinks fine. Definitely not worth the cost of the spares used for the cosmetic value of the gun though

    (3) A Tempest bought off here as part of a deal when somebody wanted the Mercury bits it came with. The rifling was totally shot and the cylinder really---I mean REALLY corroded as well. There was no fulcrum, end plug/guide, pivot pin, barrel catch pivot, plunger or spring, cocking link or cocking link spring---oh and the grips were broken, with no screws or the bit they screw into. I almost forgot, the rearsight was pretty bolloxed/bent and the thread gone in the frame. When the gun went to my mate, he had the boss machined off the piston so it could take a leather washer if he wanted (I'd had this done to try the short stroke Tempest with a Ptfe head). He put a drill through the .22 barrel and then ordered some 4.5mm ID brass tube off the bay. He glued this in the barrel.
    After chatting about it for some time, he posted it to me. I spent an hour and half with some wet and dry on a dowel trying to shift the corrosion in the cylinder, but could still not get the piston in. In the morning I put the dowel in the electric drill and shifted it like that. I then made up a leahter washer. Another used mainspring was found. I had a guide and a well worn fulcrum. I also had a bit of trigger spring and a breech seal in stock. I think I used a bit of an old punch for the barrel catch plunger. A roll pin was used for the pivot of the catch for now. A barrel pivot, sear spring and short link were bought. I tapped out the frame to take a 3BA screw for the elevation and managed to tap the bent rear sight plate into some sort of shape. I finally got the gun together. It was so frustrating. After a bit of settling in, it would shoot ok and then go off. at one point I hit 7 bottle caps in a row. Next day it was like a shotgun. It has been drivingme mad Just when I was about to give up a few shots would go on target.
    I kept thinking that it must be the rough cylinder and the leather washer---but eventually decided to swop things about with another Tempest. I was still shooting at this point with no grips on. With a .22 barrel it was pretty accurate and the .177 barrel was not great on the other gun.
    I swapped it back and tried some Bulldog pellets and they were even worse--some wouldn't fire. I then sized some pellets by pushing them through the barrel and it was a bit better,but they were tight at the both ends. I tried a drill and a countersink tool but it was still crap. I was looking at the end of the barrel and there seemed to be a slight mark. Eventually I decided to try putting a small pin punch in the barrel and turned it, hopping the chamfered shank would sort the burr. It seemed to work. For now the thing is killing bottle caps for fun (using grips borrowed off the Hurricane) but I think it is an uneasy truce. Will it be ok? Will the cylinder knacker the leather seal?
    At worse--I'll break it back into spares, but I am hoping it carries on plinking---as a smooth bore .177 Tempest.
    Last edited by ggggr; 27-08-2017 at 12:23 PM.
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