Glad to hear your getting out and about Peter. For me in sub 12 I love my Gladius in 177. Topped with a Nikko Sterling Panamax 3-9x50AO it might be on the heavy side for some, but I love it. Most of the time it is configured for ratting with the Nitsite Viper attached but occasionally it gets out for a day on the pigeons. Now in FAC the Galatian in 25 brings a smile everytime it goes out. Fitted with a Nikko Sterling Panamax 4-16x50AO it goes out more than anything else. In good conditions it works well out to 120 yards.