I spoke to Mick today
He said “no certificates required “
Thats one way out of answering an awkward question !
I spoke to Mick today
He said “no certificates required “
Last edited by Lee5159; 28-07-2021 at 10:19 PM.
As you may know Mick “Mick’s guns” is an RFD he knows what he’s talking about he also wouldn’t sell one without if needed
This was take from another thread
Originally Posted by Geezer
According to the interweb, the Crosman Trapmaster 1100, loaded with a single projectile, makes anything from 23 to 40+ ft/lbs, so definitely FAC territory.
Sure. But personally I’ve got no interest in finding out if a court agrees with him, with my liberty and ability to own any sort of firearm as the stakes vs owning a CO2 shotgun. As you may know Mick “Mick’s guns” is an RFD he knows what he’s talking about he also wouldn’t sell one without if needed
My understanding from earlier posts was it is capable of firing a solid ball in a readily available calibre and if it did it would be well over 12 ftlbs. If that’s right I would not want to be caught with one. It would be irrelevant that you had no intention to use it like that.
Last edited by Jerry Cornelius; 29-07-2021 at 11:56 AM.
Morally flawed
i've been offered a few over the years and i've always classed them as too grey to take the risk without a ticket
i am tempted to re barrel one i've been offered with a .22 or .177 so it still takes a plastic shell or make some brass carts like the umarex saa
Given that it's fairly common knowledge that these produce comfortably in excess of 12 ft/lbs and any argument over measuring single or multiple projectiles is moot as the Trapmasters had solid ball ammo as a factory option (thus ticking the 'capable' box)...I'd suggest in this case Mick is talking out of his arse, RFD or not.
With its original factory load of small shot, it makes 17ft-lbs for the whole load (but not for any individual pellet, obviously).
Unmodified, with a single projectile of 9mm diameter, it makes 23 or so ft-lbs.
Modified, same goes of course for any CO2/PCP gun, up to 40.
It is a smoothbore.
It has a 28” barrel.
Study the the rules on low-power airguns, S2 shotguns, S1 guns.
Then draw your own conclusions.
Mine is that I would rather not own one off ticket.
Exactly, and I'd have thought that ANY dealer selling one off ticket was highly irresponsible and potentially breaking the law.
I have some dust shot .22 projectiles somewhere and have used them in my sub-12lbs FWB Sport in the distant past, even though if I added up the ME of each tiny ball, it may come to over 12 ft/lbs. The dust shot is so obviously less potentially harmful than a single pellet that I have complete confidence that nobody would ever suggest they rendered the rifle illegal.
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Yes but I’m not sure that’s the point. Perhaps naively I tend to think our laws will mostly be enforced sensibly. I mean, if you took any mainstream springer running close to 12ftlbs I guess we can all think of a few ways it could be tipped over, but, unless you are actually found with the bottle of ether in hand I don’t think there is any chance a police force is going to try to do you. Likewise with your FWB.
The point with these things is, used exactly as designed and advertised , they are over the limit and apparently well over. I don’t think dust shot comes into it because of the solid ammo.
Morally flawed