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    Cast lead bullets- best homemade lube in uk

    I've just started home casting, been reloading for 25yrs and wanted to add to my skills.
    Started out with a lee 358 158gn rnfp die. Also decided on pan lubed over alox. Using range scrap cleaned and fluxed.
    Watched a lot of YouTube videos on lubeing, but tends to be mainly North American recipes.
    From this I've made a uk recipe substituted the USA staple "johnson paste wax" with UK available briwax.
    Just loaded up 100 of these rounds after pan lube and sizing to 358 with a lee sizer.

    Recipe
    400g briwax
    400g vaseline
    400g beeswax
    2 tbsp of stp fuel additive
    1 wax crayon for colour.

    Will see how the barrel leading is after 50 shots.

    Just wandering what other people use for pan lubing pistol calibre nitro bullets? I also quite like the look of Ben's red using lithium bearing grease. Any thoughts?

    J
    Steyr LP10, AA S200 .177,
    Remmy Express .177, Sig Sauer P226- .177
    Crosman Rabbitstopper- .22, Chinese XS36-1- .22

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    Not pistol but .303 for me. I powder coat and when hardened (give it a week) then roll them in a mix of alox and a liquid polish which dries nicely.

    Does the job well with no leading and a nice shiny bore.

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    Leading is more to do with hard undersized bullets.
    I use JPW mixed with Lee alox 50/50 for tumble lubing.
    Never used JPW for use in lubrisizer.
    I use mainly beeswax with a small amount of paraffin and a spoon full of ATF.
    I leave it in a saucepan and warm it up when needed and pour it into the lubesizer.
    I have used this with rifle bullets up to 2100 fps with not a hint of leading or fouling.
    You can make your own lube moulds from upvc tubing and dowel.

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    Liquid allox or Felix lube but with calcium soap instead of standard soap.

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    I'm currently working with briwax with some Lee tumble lube bullets. Just a nob of the briwax in a tin or plastic bag, swirl in a hundred or so bullets then tip out to dry. The lube i usually use is soap based, so has to be used through a lubresizer. A good general purpose lube is a simple mix of lithium grease and beeswax. For pan lubing black powder bullets I use a mix of vaseline and beeswax that apparently works well with high pressure smokeless loads.

    As already pointed out, leading is rarely a lubricant issue but is due to bullets being under size or the wrong hardness.

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    I did try a mixture based on red rubber lube. It was great but then I read the safety sheet for this grease and thought it was a bad idea to breathe it in.

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    Thanks for info everyone.
    Yes alox looks simple solution, but I like shiny bullets with a proper lube band .
    Interesting about the red lube toxicity, I have also been told alox is not to be used indoors, I think its also made from oxidised grease?
    My bullets are casting out at .364 from Lee dies, I have been sizing to 358 with the lee sizing die.
    I may purchase a lyman4500 in the future as also planning to produce wadcutters for taurus revolver.
    J
    Steyr LP10, AA S200 .177,
    Remmy Express .177, Sig Sauer P226- .177
    Crosman Rabbitstopper- .22, Chinese XS36-1- .22

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    Liquid allox is a commercial preserving oil. It is oil and calcium soap.

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