Had .20 shame pellets are so expensive and not much choice . Personally for me it was to much hassle with pellets and just did not see the point in it when I can pick up .22 and .177 ...
Each to their own and it's good to be different..
Had .20 shame pellets are so expensive and not much choice . Personally for me it was to much hassle with pellets and just did not see the point in it when I can pick up .22 and .177 ...
Each to their own and it's good to be different..
So expensive - compared to what ?
https://www.uttings.co.uk/c1006-177-pellets/brand=jsb/
https://www.uttings.co.uk/p103636-ha...-250-hnftt20p/
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Exactly, negative comments with no basis in fact.
I on the other hand vary the calibre to suit the situation, .20, .22, .25, FAC .25, .22lr, .17WSM, .243.
I used to shoot .177 but found it had the poorest results with far too many runners, in addition at close range the pellets go straight through, thus wasting most of their energy & risking damage to anything behind.
I have zero interest in paper punching, so stopped using it altogether.
I use a LRF so ranging isn't an issue, & 9/10 use quad sticks or bipod to steady myself.
My MFR .20 with FTT's is without doubt the most accurate sub 12 rifle I have ever had, but if I think something else will better suit on the day, I'll choose a different tool (a gun simply being a tool to do a job)
I struggle to understand why people think 1 gun can do it all, if they have the option of something better suited, so to me, .177 belongs on the target range, not in the field.
Personal opinion is one thing, but most anti .20 sentiment simply has no basis in fact, or practical experience.
Last edited by angrybear; 07-02-2023 at 01:25 AM.
Not really anti .20, I just don't see the point as they don't fly as flat, or hit as hard and generally they are the two reasons for choosing either .177 or .22.
Bet you have note pads and drawings of different trajectories and either aim points or adjustments on scope for every rig.
Carrying all that kit sounds slow, laborious and tedious.
I take my rifle, and I know every adjustment as its all I use. Like instinct or auto pilot. By the time you set yourself up, get comfy, range the quarry, adjust or settle with an aim point Id have shot half a dozen rabbits. What do you do when your quarry moves, range again and again and again, or if you have a .22 or .25 and quarry goes out to 40m+.
.177 out to 50-55 is all ya need, whether it be airgun quarry or FT/HFT, it does it all and well. Runners with a .177, ya missing a vital period, bigger pellet and more power doesn't help, you still missed a vital, = wounded animal. Maybe not for long but still suffering. Shame we aren't closer to each other, then I could show you first hand how clinical my rig is, like I have done many times before.
Tools should go .177, .22LR or .17HMR, .243.
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.20 -
As well as being the best all round Uk power caliber it saves so much hassle
You can set a springer at 11.4 with FTT and a pcp same with jsb and not have to worry some new silly super pellet will send velocity all over the shop.
All you need is one good accurate dome head anyway which those two always are :
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I think Benjamin first popularised it in USA _
Guntrader has half the amount of rifles in 20 cal they often have, and the fact they are so rare second hand seems to suggest they must be increasing overall - year on year I imagine
I remember when Theoben did their experiments championing 20 cal too, in their early heyday. More energy retention downrange etc, nearly as flat as 177 at hunting ranges, nearly as big a hole as 22 .......
The increased quality of pellet manufacture of recent years has really helped all airgun calibres.
I'm not sure if HW make their own 20 cal barrels now, I'm sure at one stage they were bought in. I certainly had Anchutz barrelled Theobens in 177 that got leaded up fast and could have made me conclude 177 or Theobens were crap , if I was not more knowledgeable _
I wonder how much some poor barrels earlier on in UK 20 cal history have left shooters with an incorrect impression that's out of step with current situation _ or the reviews in magazines
Magazines which rely on advertisers, many of whom do not make airguns in 20 calibre _
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I can see past .177, have used all calibres and FAC air. Like Mr Bear says it could be HFT mentality, but my opinion is also based on a lot of experience. I have also said many times HFT and FT is a hunting simulation competition. Go take your .20,.22 and .25 and see how you get on. Every plate you hit is a wounded animal!!
I could do all my shooting with any of the other calibres, but it wouldn't be as easy as with .177, and that is my main point, .177 sub 12 is the easiest to get on with and achieve good results so surely this makes it the best calibre sub 12.
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