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Thread: HW 97. To strip or not to strip ?

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    I think HW have been resting on their laurels these days and most of their range needs a strip and relube. Why they can't fit a top hat to their springers for the price they are charging these days is hard to believe. Give me the older rifles up till about 2000 for better build quality. Mach 1.5

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    Send it to Nick Simmons. Great investment

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    Most of the "bvvvtttt" twang noise in a new gun is because there's no top hat centralising the spring on the latch rod at the front of the piston rather than noise coming from the delrin spring guide. The ID of the spring will be around 14mm but the latch rod is 10mm ish; the piston will be about 22mm ID and spring around 20mm so lots of room to buzz. If you add a top hat you'll need to shorten the factory spring guide very slightly and possibly collapse half a coil depending on thickness of top hat and any slip washer used.

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    In my experience, many of the recent HWs, especially 77s and 97s, have actually shot very nicely out of the box. I think it's just the luck of the draw with the guide to spring fit. As previously mentioned, fitting a kit from the likes of TbT, Welsh Willy or ARC, with the guide and top hat being made to perfectly fit the spring, will result in smoother cocking and firing sequences and give you the peace of mind that, having inspected the internals, all is well inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach 1.5 View Post
    I think HW have been resting on their laurels these days and most of their range needs a strip and relube. Why they can't fit a top hat to their springers for the price they are charging these days is hard to believe. Give me the older rifles up till about 2000 for better build quality. Mach 1.5

    100 % agree with this Paul, ludicrous that they don't have a top hat in this day & age. What would it cost with the numbers they would be making or buying in, pennies ?




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    Quote Originally Posted by u.k.neil View Post
    For the sake of half an hour and your own peace of mind, just do it.


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    Exactly this. New rifles can have swarf or other debris where is should not be, plus they most of the time have grease in front of the piston seasl.
    They almost always benefit from a strip and proper relube.
    Too many airguns!

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