20 Calibre saves a lot of hassle discuss

[oneseven]

I love my .20 rifles. I'm just not shooting distances where the trajectory loss makes a massive difference against .177. The only frustrating thing is when I grab a pocketful of pellets for a .22 rifle and then watch one fall down the barrel because I've picked up .20! I've done this a surprising number of times!

[the growler]

I love my .20 rifles. I'm just not shooting distances where the trajectory loss makes a massive difference against .177. The only frustrating thing is when I grab a pocketful of pellets for a .22 rifle and then watch one fall down the barrel because I've picked up .20! I've done this a surprising number of times!

Same here.

[HW777]

I spoke to UK Neil many moons ago about the possibilities of making a sizing die to take .22 pellets down to .20

His reply was that he had already been asked about this, I kick myself for not following it up but do wonder if the sizing dies were ever made ?

Given the do's and don't and narrow view's of some, the simplistic choice of choosing not to having the hassle of pellet selection comes with .20

.20 has 5 good pellet designs to choose from, no head spin really, buy a .20 rifle you may just be surprised by this cal

[gsxrman]

OP statement was .20 the best sub 12 CAL.
not FAC or do you like your .20 gun.
Simple answer is no, it is not the best all round calibre at sub 12
That is why there are limited guns and limited ammo cos of one simple thing, lack of demand.
now they have been around a long time and plenty of people have tried them s as no took them out peering or to the club where others see and have a go
Then most go what’s the point, I don’t get it, and stick to .177 of .22
So the vast majority of people can’t be wrong
Simple really, and as .177 is more versatile at sub 12 than .22, the best all round cal dub 12 is obvious.

[HW777]

.20 It's a lot easier to shoot this calibre than it is to talk about Map out the pellets fight path with .20 N&N FTT and you'll find, If you've shot .177 bis mags there really isn't much in it between the two them.

A skill of the air gun hunter is to carry a pellet suitable for close range shoots, .177 tend to drill through .20 is less likely too and if JSB .20 pellets are to tight in your barrel, sizing them will give flat surface to the head of the pellet, which can be useful and will help stabilise the pellet at range.

[angrybear]

OP statement was .20 the best sub 12 CAL.
not FAC or do you like your .20 gun.
Simple answer is no, it is not the best all round calibre at sub 12
That is why there are limited guns and limited ammo cos of one simple thing, lack of demand.
now they have been around a long time and plenty of people have tried them s as no took them out peering or to the club where others see and have a go
Then most go what’s the point, I don’t get it, and stick to .177 of .22
So the vast majority of people can’t be wrong
Simple really, and as .177 is more versatile at sub 12 than .22, the best all round cal dub 12 is obvious.

Oh, back to points that are regularly addressed

.20 is the best sub 12 HUNTING calibre,
if you only shoot paper/tin as many club shooters do, then .177 is easier to judge range differences, easier to get higher scores, for those that worry about such things, so yes there's no point

There are limited guns purely down to a mix of economics & catch-22,
If there were equal numbers of .20 on the shelf, they would sell
but when only a few brands make them & those brands that do are special order, cost more & then take months to arrive it's hardly a surprise that there's limited take up,

Without more take-up they won't make more rifles, but without more rifles there cannot be more take-up = Catch 22

Limited ammo isn't an issue, because I've never heard of a .20 barrel that isn't bang on with either H&N's or JSB's,
there might be 100+ brands of .177/.22 ammo but half of them are pointless garbage, & the other half are badged variants from the same 2-3 manufactures.

The vast majority of people can be, & are, wrong on a daily basis , a look at the pap people watch on TV, popular social media, or the mediocre cars on the top seller lists.

.177 isn't more versatile, it's just 'small & light', so can shoot faster & flatter when governed by the sub 12 law, it has nothing else going for it in the slightest.

[gsxrman]

Oh, back to points that are regularly addressed

.20 is the best sub 12 HUNTING calibre,
if you only shoot paper/tin as many club shooters do, then .177 is easier to judge range differences, easier to get higher scores, for those that worry about such things, so yes there's no point

There are limited guns purely down to a mix of economics & catch-22,
If there were equal numbers of .20 on the shelf, they would sell
but when only a few brands make them & those brands that do are special order, cost more & then take months to arrive it's hardly a surprise that there's limited take up,

Without more take-up they won't make more rifles, but without more rifles there cannot be more take-up = Catch 22

Limited ammo isn't an issue, because I've never heard of a .20 barrel that isn't bang on with either H&N's or JSB's,
there might be 100+ brands of .177/.22 ammo but half of them are pointless garbage, & the other half are badged variants from the same 2-3 manufactures.

The vast majority of people can be, & are, wrong on a daily basis , a look at the pap people watch on TV, popular social media, or the mediocre cars on the top seller lists.

.177 isn't more versatile, it's just 'small & light', so can shoot faster & flatter when governed by the sub 12 law, it has nothing else going for it in the slightest.

You have just answered most of my argument
Most popular rifles that sold well like the Rapid for instance have been made in.20 so it had all chance of the other calibres
.177 carries and retains enough energy at FT range to despatch within quarry
.177 flies flatter and faster and deals with wind better
Therefore making the .177 much easier to be accurate with over varied ranges and as that what counts it has to be the best cal sub12

[PCPShooter]

Wow, I wonder if those last couple of Uk power air rifles on Gun T in 20 cal will sell before this thread drops down