Who made a Gem pattern?...

[Garvin]

Who made a Gem pattern air gun?...


The general line is that "everyone and their uncle made a Gem pattern"...but, when you look into it, it just doesn't quite pan out that way...so who did manufacture a Gem pattern air gun?...


Haviland and Gunn
Quackenbush
Eisenwerke Gaggenau
Langanhan - father and son Friedrich =LZ, and Fritz =FLZ
Jean Marck
Diana / MGR
Frank Cox
Ocsar Will
...and a much later Spanish Komet?




Anyone else I've forgotten or didn't know about?

I suppose Bonehill's Anglo Sure Shot Britannia falls into the Gem-pattern category, Dave? Invented by Frederick Cox
.

[Garvin]

Lane's?
Henry Boker (I doubt if he actually made it)?

[DCL_dave]

I suppose Bonehill's Anglo Sure Shot Britannia falls into the Gem-pattern category, Dave? Invented by Frederick Cox
.

Well spotted, Danny...I have corrected the list now and yes of course the is a Gem pattern

Lane's?
Henry Boker (I doubt if he actually made it)?

Think Lane Brothers were only retailers who adapted and improved certain Gem patterns, mainly EG types but possibly others too?

Think Boker was a retailer as well?...

[Garvin]

Think Lane Brothers were only retailers who adapted and improved certain Gem patterns, mainly EG types but possibly others too?

Think Boker was a retailer as well?...

That doesn't surprise me Dave. Why build something when you can just stick your name on something someone else has done!

[edbear2]

That doesn't surprise me Dave. Why build something when you can just stick your name on something someone else has done!

Lincoln Jeffries springs to mind, although he supposedly "improved" aspects of the foreign guns he sold and stamped up before he came up with his tap loading patent. I can't recall in which book it is I read about in now, but the subject of British gunsmiths importing and stamping up foreign guns was a huge bone of contention way back for the Birmingham and London makers.

ATB, Ed

[ccdjg]

The company K.B Paris had a range of Gem type airguns around 1900. I am pretty sure that they made these themselves, as all their other guns (air pistols and toy guns) were made by them, and in fact it is stated that their specific intent was to provide a domestic range of airguns to compete with foreign imports.

[DCL_dave]

Lincoln Jeffries springs to mind, although he supposedly "improved" aspects of the foreign guns he sold and stamped up before he came up with his tap loading patent. I can't recall in which book it is I read about in now, but the subject of British gunsmiths importing and stamping up foreign guns was a huge bone of contention way back for the Birmingham and London makers.

ATB, Ed

HI Ed,

Have we seen a LJ marked Gem pattern in the wild?...I honestly can't remember!...I seem to remember that LJ did put his moniker on some of the Militas of the day though...

The company K.B Paris had a range of Gem type airguns around 1900. I am pretty sure that they made these themselves, as all their other guns (air pistols and toy guns) were made by them, and in fact it is stated that their specific intent was to provide a domestic range of airguns to compete with foreign imports.

Hi John,

Thank you, I had not heard of K.B.Paris but do seem to remember another French name...'Coire''?...or something like that?...ring any bells with you or anyone else? (or is it coconut husk! )

Have any actual examples of a K.B. Paris airgun or Gem pattern showed up anywhere?...I wonder if that advertising spiel is just that - spiel?...and, given that half of Belgium spoke French, whether it is a re-branded Belgian Marck Gem pattern or similar German type?...