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    Hello John,

    Looks like a bargain to me. I much prefer the straight hand stocks on Improved Mod Ds, which strangely seem a lot harder to source than the pistol grip rifles these days, given that they were the cheaper alternative when new.


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    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hello John,

    Looks like a bargain to me. I much prefer the straight hand stocks on Improved Mod Ds, which strangely seem a lot harder to source than the pistol grip rifles these days, given that they were the cheaper alternative when new.


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    Brian
    Hi Brian,

    I think the main point is the guns were supplied with the 'Pistolhand' stock as standard, however the 'Straight hand' stock could be ordered at the time of purchase.If you didnt positively change to 'straighthand' stock, you got the 'Pistolhand' automatically. Most dealers would have probably sold 75% of their guns with the standard stock choice. So that probably explains why there seem to be so many more 'Pistolhand' stocks than 'Straighthand' stocks- even though the Straighthand were cheaper.

    Lakey

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    Well done John!!!

    That is a LOVELY bit of timber on that stock. With a good clean, that figuring will shine through. Lovely


    You just gotta love those old BSA's.


    Lakey

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    NICE JOB John , well done Mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakey View Post
    Hi Brian,

    I think the main point is the guns were supplied with the 'Pistolhand' stock as standard, however the 'Straight hand' stock could be ordered at the time of purchase.If you didnt positively change to 'straighthand' stock, you got the 'Pistolhand' automatically. Most dealers would have probably sold 75% of their guns with the standard stock choice. So that probably explains why there seem to be so many more 'Pistolhand' stocks than 'Straighthand' stocks- even though the Straighthand were cheaper.

    Lakey
    Hello Lakey,

    Thanks for clearing that one up for me. I have never really understood until now why there seemed to be far more ""Pistol Hand" rifles than "Straight Hand" models.

    What would you reckon the ratio between them is ?

    Regards

    Brian

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    Oh Dear


    I'm not getting this now until the 24th of this month as the chap was bringing it up to Sheffield from London and forgot to pick it up from his father in laws


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hello Lakey,

    Thanks for clearing that one up for me. I have never really understood until now why there seemed to be far more ""Pistol Hand" rifles than "Straight Hand" models.

    What would you reckon the ratio between them is ?

    Regards

    Brian
    Brian, Lakey estimated a 3:1 ratio in his previous post. That seems as good an estimate as any to me. I suppose the best way available to narrow it down would be to use 'big data' techniques and tot up the ratios of straight- to pistol-hand stocks across the various pre-WW1 model galleries in the vintage BSA forum. I don't have the time, but a retired person might...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Brian, Lakey estimated a 3:1 ratio in his previous post. That seems as good an estimate as any to me. I suppose the best way available to narrow it down would be to use 'big data' techniques and tot up the ratios of straight- to pistol-hand stocks across the various pre-WW1 model galleries in the vintage BSA forum. I don't have the time, but a retired person might...
    Hi Danny,

    You offering me a job! Seriously though, with so much time on my hands I might just try and look a bit deeper into this, but 3:1 also sounds about right from my personal experience.

    Having read Lakey's post again, he as you rightly say, estimates 75% of the rifles were sold with with standard "Pistol Hand" stocks and his along with your own, is probably as informed an opinion as you are likely to get.


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    Brian
    Last edited by Abasmajor; 08-03-2014 at 05:32 PM.

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