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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Not really, but I can combine a bit of French and schoolboy Latin.

    That bit about the Dianas I don’t understand.

    The rest appears mostly to be a standard description of how a tap-loading underlever works “when the lever is returned, the gun can be fired” kind of thing.

    It says the basic model was the “Barton” and the deluxe version was the “Redcastle”. I think.

    Feeling slightly smug to have discovered a - to us - previously unknown vintage rifle, and therefore expecting someone like Frank to pop up and tell us he has seven of them, with pics.
    Actually .. no!
    All credits are on you Sir, never heard of these ones either.
    Getting info from Italy about airguns is allmost impossinble, I have tried with the Breda airguns I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frakor View Post
    Actually .. no!
    All credits are on you Sir, never heard of these ones either.
    Getting info from Italy about airguns is allmost impossinble, I have tried with the Breda airguns I have.

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    Good stuff Frank. I still think that if anyone can find one, it will be you!

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    Yes, it is describing a pop-up breech mechanism. But this is an announcement of the system, not really an advert? I would have thought this was put out to gauge interest, though there must have been a prototype at least.

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    I'll have a go at making it more understandable in english as it is spoken rather than translated, since I understand and speak Italian very well.

    The Fabarm rifle comes in two models the standard one called the Barton and the luxury version called the Redcastle.it is a compressed air rifle with a fixed barrel where the cocking and loading are done by a separate lever which also operates the loading mechanism via an articulated part.

    In the photos one can see the picture in elevation format that shows the rifle in the open and closed positions, that is to say in the unloaded and loaded positions.

    In the open position or rather when the rifle is ready to be loaded with darts or pellets, the piston has already been cocked while the raised breech exposes a hole through which a pellet or dart can be inserted.

    Swinging the underlever back to its horizontal position makes the rifle ready for shooting.

    Fabarm also makes a normal air rifle like the Diana mod 22 and Diana mod 25 as well as darts for these.

    Fabarm (Weapons Factory of Brescia) has its headquarters in Trento Road 16a, Brescia.


    What follows are some observations of mine.
    The mention of the two Diana models indicates that Diana were the reference mark for others to aspire to, at least from a commercial point of view. It is interesting to see that they also mentioned their production of darts in the same paragraph as they refer to Diana rifles. This leads me to think that in those days(mid1970s?) marketing and production was aimed towards the general shooter, rather than specialised target shooters, hence the mention of the specific two Diana models and dart production. This advert highlights Fabarm as also being capable of making air rifles which were of a higher design standard by mentioning two basic break barrel Diana's which were nevertheless extremely popular at the time.
    Another observation is the English names given to these models. Perhaps they were targeting the UK and USA markets.

    Incidentally, I know someone who swears by the reliability of Fabarm semi auto shotguns, so they know how to manufacture good stuff like most of the weapon makers in Brescia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvd View Post
    I'll have a go at making it more understandable in english as it is spoken rather than translated, since I understand and speak Italian very well.

    The Fabarm rifle comes in two models the standard one called the Barton and the luxury version called the Redcastle.it is a compressed air rifle with a fixed barrel where the cocking and loading are done by a separate lever which also operates the loading mechanism via an articulated part.

    In the photos one can see the picture in elevation format that shows the rifle in the open and closed positions, that is to say in the unloaded and loaded positions.

    In the open position or rather when the rifle is ready to be loaded with darts or pellets, the piston has already been cocked while the raised breech exposes a hole through which a pellet or dart can be inserted.

    Swinging the underlever back to its horizontal position makes the rifle ready for shooting.

    Fabarm also makes a normal air rifle like the Diana mod 22 and Diana mod 25 as well as darts for these.

    Fabarm (Weapons Factory of Brescia) has its headquarters in Trento Road 16a, Brescia.


    What follows are some observations of mine.
    The mention of the two Diana models indicates that Diana were the reference mark for others to aspire to, at least from a commercial point of view. It is interesting to see that they also mentioned their production of darts in the same paragraph as they refer to Diana rifles. This leads me to think that in those days(mid1970s?) marketing and production was aimed towards the general shooter, rather than specialised target shooters, hence the mention of the specific two Diana models and dart production. This advert highlights Fabarm as also being capable of making air rifles which were of a higher design standard by mentioning two basic break barrel Diana's which were nevertheless extremely popular at the time.
    Another observation is the English names given to these models. Perhaps they were targeting the UK and USA markets.

    Incidentally, I know someone who swears by the reliability of Fabarm semi auto shotguns, so they know how to manufacture good stuff like most of the weapon makers in Brescia.
    Excellent! Many thanks.
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    Just noticed that you are clear that only a single air rifle was made by Fabarm like the Diana 22 and 25 - which of course are very similar to one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Just noticed that you are clear that only a single air rifle was made by Fabarm like the Diana 22 and 25 - which of course are very similar to one another.
    Actually the way it's written in Italian makes it's hard to tell if they made a single break barrel model or more than one. They use the word carabine which means rifles and which is the plural of carabina. The use of the plural is because they are refering to the generic description of Diana's mod 22 and 25 break barrel's rather than a specific break barrel they make.
    It could well be that they made just one break barrel, but it can not easily be deduced just by reading the advert which after all is about their underlever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvd View Post
    I'll have a go at making it more understandable in english as it is spoken rather than translated, since I understand and speak Italian very well.

    The Fabarm rifle comes in two models the standard one called the Barton and the luxury version called the Redcastle.it is a compressed air rifle with a fixed barrel where the cocking and loading are done by a separate lever which also operates the loading mechanism via an articulated part.

    In the photos one can see the picture in elevation format that shows the rifle in the open and closed positions, that is to say in the unloaded and loaded positions.

    In the open position or rather when the rifle is ready to be loaded with darts or pellets, the piston has already been cocked while the raised breech exposes a hole through which a pellet or dart can be inserted.

    Swinging the underlever back to its horizontal position makes the rifle ready for shooting.

    Fabarm also makes a normal air rifle like the Diana mod 22 and Diana mod 25 as well as darts for these.

    Fabarm (Weapons Factory of Brescia) has its headquarters in Trento Road 16a, Brescia.


    What follows are some observations of mine.
    The mention of the two Diana models indicates that Diana were the reference mark for others to aspire to, at least from a commercial point of view. It is interesting to see that they also mentioned their production of darts in the same paragraph as they refer to Diana rifles. This leads me to think that in those days(mid1970s?) marketing and production was aimed towards the general shooter, rather than specialised target shooters, hence the mention of the specific two Diana models and dart production. This advert highlights Fabarm as also being capable of making air rifles which were of a higher design standard by mentioning two basic break barrel Diana's which were nevertheless extremely popular at the time.
    Another observation is the English names given to these models. Perhaps they were targeting the UK and USA markets.

    Incidentally, I know someone who swears by the reliability of Fabarm semi auto shotguns, so they know how to manufacture good stuff like most of the weapon makers in Brescia.
    Brilliant, thank you.

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