Target Pistols (in general)

[nishijin]

Very nice looking bit of kit!

I thought the HW75 was a 400+fps gun? I shot an HW40 (same innards?)last week that was noticeably more powerful than my Sig Sauer ASP that is currently running at 360fps. The HW40 was punching clean holes in target cards, but the Sig was only managing ragged holes.

I wondered the same, but doing some searching online, it looks like the HW75 is known for 'low' power. If you ignore the couple extremes (bad pellet/cocking), the spread is narrow enough that I won't worry.


The grip has had some layers of Tru-Oil, and a final bit of pure carna wax on top. It's a little bit too shiny, usage should bring it back to a matt finish in time.




Of course... I also went and bought Mickson's Gamo Centre, so maybe these pistols breed like rabbits.

[Modski66]

Like rabbits? Very true! My current total is 21 pistols (plus 4 rifles for a bit of light relief).

I dropped across an early Baikal MP-53 in February, made in the USSR and in the original packaging and with all accessories. Then I just had to buy the Sig Sauer ASP Supertarget because it was there, and most recently a Predom Lucznik, because I always feel compelled to buy something at the Melbourne Airgun Fayre...

[AdeC]

I wondered the same, but doing some searching online, it looks like the HW75 is known for 'low' power. If you ignore the couple extremes (bad pellet/cocking), the spread is narrow enough that I won't worry.


The grip has had some layers of Tru-Oil, and a final bit of pure carna wax on top. It's a little bit too shiny, usage should bring it back to a matt finish in time.




Of course... I also went and bought Mickson's Gamo Centre, so maybe these pistols breed like rabbits.

I was just about to recommend a Center!

[nishijin]

I was just about to recommend a Center!

I'm looking forward to trying it when it arrives.

In the mean time I had a short session in the range at Devizes with the HW75.

5 shots
10 meters
Sitting/supported two hands
Econ II pellets.




I'm not going to admit to how big my group got standing unsupported!

[nishijin]

Gamo Centre pistol arrived today from Mickson on-here.

It was dieseling and could probably do with a full overhaul some time, but started to settle after a few pellets.
Looking at Mike's AGF score on the sale post, we know it is very capable, so I'll need to learn what hold it likes.





After a bunch of shots to adjust the sights, readjust the sights, then adjust my hold, and adjust the sights ad infinitum, I managed the top group. This is around 7 yards? It's down the side of a detached house, and ideal for the small dots on the paper to be difficult to see and focus on.

Top group is the Gamo Centre, bottom group is jumping straight onto the HW75 immediately after.






I'm developing an even greater fondness for the HW75, not just for the group sizes, but just how silky smooth it is in operation. Placed next to a capable recoil like the Centre, you can see exactly where your money is going.

That being said, the Centre has a real character, and is definitely closer to the Tempest as far as shot-cycle-satisfaction.


I'm getting the feeling that there's no golden scenario, but it would be quite safe to run the Centre as a training pistol, and very easily upset a lot of expensive PCP owners... then load up the HW75 and leave them crying.

[zooma]

When we used to shoot the MPL series at 10 metres the Centre air pistols proved themselves to be really impressive performers as they were so capable of achieving better results that most of us would have thought possible from a spring powered air pistol.

I still have a pair of really nice Centre air pistol’s in a case in my office. I should give them some exercise before parting with them (and my LP53’s) and then move them on to somebody that will enjoy shooting them!

[nishijin]

When we used to shoot the MPL series at 10 metres the Centre air pistols proved themselves to be really impressive performers as they were so capable of achieving better results that most of us would have thought possible from a spring powered air pistol.

I still have a pair of really nice Centre air pistol’s in a case in my office. I should give them some exercise before parting with them (and my LP53’s) and then move them on to somebody that will enjoy shooting them!

I’d gladly own more than one Center, now that I’ve had a couple goes on it.

This morning was spent stripping, cleaning, and lubricating everything.


Keen to look into an alternative to the leather seal, depending on what is realistic based on design.

[mickson]

Reading some of the earlier threads & your dislike of overlever pistols consider the lov21 co2 pistol, i believe still available new on gt guns about £100 , plastic ugly, crude but workable sights, however the non adjustable trigger is a delight light & smooth & on a good day capable of worrying Pcp pistol shooters, which reminds me i have'nt shot mine lately will have to give it a go soon.

[nishijin]

Reading some of the earlier threads & your dislike of overlever pistols consider the lov21 co2 pistol, i believe still available new on gt guns about £100 , plastic ugly, crude but workable sights, however the non adjustable trigger is a delight light & smooth & on a good day capable of worrying Pcp pistol shooters, which reminds me i have'nt shot mine lately will have to give it a go soon.

Yea I am definitely not a fan, based on the HW40 etc… but I have quickly learned to tolerate it with the HW75. I quite like self-contained airguns. PCP and CO2 is a little bothersome for me, when I can learn much more skill from a springer.