Help for a wet behind the ears newbie - and blank loads

[Smokeless Coal]

pyro is dirtier but easier to buy. But if your only use for this gun is going to be this then you could probably use nitro powder (everyone throws their hands up in horror) but only because there is no projectile to create breach pressure. Nitro would go off easier, the big shock is that it would be in a gun proofed only for BP.

We are cosidering specialist loading here, half a grain of nitro powder would be enough if your looking at the range of the rider in your example.

[Smokeless Coal]

chain fire with just powder loads would be a big pfut and over in a second.

Caps you would have trial and error to find best fit, and a good push with a bit of wooden dowel to seat them well. A problem with m/l guns is that often the cap bursts and bits go everywhere, not good next to your horse or without eye protection. One plus is without the back pressure from a ball its less likely to blow the cap off, nipples with smaller holes would help as well. My bad as theres little powder larger holes would be best.

[pegger]

pyro is dirtier but easier to buy. But if your only use for this gun is going to be this then you could probably use nitro powder (everyone throws their hands up in horror) but only because there is no projectile to create breach pressure. Nitro would go off easier, the big shock is that it would be in a gun proofed only for BP.

We are cosidering specialist loading here, half a grain of nitro powder would be enough if your looking at the range of the rider in your example.

Shows how much I know, I thought Pyrodex was cleaner than BP!

Nitro... hummm makes me worry, and I would not be keen to try. One of our guys blew the breach out on a trinity with a nitro blank. I'd be very loathe to try it Do pietta make any muzzle loaders proofed for Nitro? (my little forward venter is, but can only take a 9mm short anyway)

[Smokeless Coal]

commecial blanks are made with a bursting insert and crimped to create pressure in the cartridge, you get more bang that way. You said you want less bang and the way to achieve that is to not restrict the powder and create an explosive force.

[pegger]

It would be interesting to know what's actually in the commerical loads

The 9mm nitros I had were very quiet and couldn't burst a balloon, but were good for a quieter training round and when we once had to do a competition inside (I decided better to keep horse happy than to burst the balloons)

The nitro that blew up a trinity was a long cased home load I believe, so no crimp open ended. Hence my reluctance to mess with nitro.

Are dainty muzzle loaders common?

Also random question, but how much would you expect a dealer to charge to receive a firearm on your behalf? Quite a few have quoted £30

[Smokeless Coal]

my rfd for me nothing, he tells me a tenner to cover the paperwork with everyone else so 20 to 30 is about normal. the most common is the 1862 colt replica. look on henry kranks website.

[harricook]

I have friends on Ohio that shoot this and similar comps/disciplines regularly from horseback - but as a shooter and rider myself - it freaks me out slightly I must admit ! I would not want to combine the two !

http://americashorsedaily.com/saddle...nted-shooting/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2161837/posts
http://www.acmsa.com/melissa%20dragoo.htm
and check the video in this one
http://newmsa.com/

Jimmy uses a coarse BP rifle powder loaded in brass pistol cases - capped with a simple card wad - then sealed with a cellulose varnish (nail polish to you & me)

They use both pistols & leverguns

They are hitting balloons from about 15ft - and when I went to see him (and his wife) shooting - my assumption is that the coarse powder is still burning and it is that that does the bursting (I may be wrong) - there is no 'solids' husks seeds wax lumps etc
See this link http://www.ponybox.com/upload/news/1805_featured.jpg

But........ to respond to one question from the OP . NONE of them are quiet !!!!!!

Now the problem comes when you use the worlds 'blanks' and 'percussion pistol' in the same sentence - as they don't exctly go together . and cartridge pistols are now Section 5 - but if you have one allowed for this discipline - then good luck to you !!


Cheers and Yeee HA !!!


Roy
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[mag44uk]

FYI,the powder used in cartridge blanks are nothing like we use in our bulleted rounds.
Blank powders are usually terrifically fast.
Think Bullseye x 10 (generalisation but you get the picture!)

Going back to the pyrodex/ml pistol,how about using the florist foam in that to hold the powder?
Say 20 grains of v fine powder,florist foam with abit of nail varnish to hold it in place?
You could make a tubing cutter to get the right diameter of foam.

I may give this ago later myself!

Even racier,how about a duplex load?

Tony