10 meter air rifles: Anschutz 380 or FWB300S

[PPP]

Hello,

I am considering purchase of one of the following:

1. Anschutz 380 or
2. FWB 300S.

Could anyone give me some advice regarding these rifles in order to choose better of the two? Which one is more solidly build, accurate, consistent? Which has the better trigger unit? Are they equally smooth during operating (cocking and shooting)? Any spring vibrations?

What is the reasonable price for these rifles in perfect condition?

The rifle will be used for paper punching.

Regards,

Przemek.

[corkscrew]

I bought a 300s last year for £200. it was made in 1979 and has seen a lot of use as it used to belong to Nationals shooter.
the price was low because the blueing is worn in places but this is no reflection on the operation of the gun which is superb. very accurate, very consistant very solidly built.

in the uk they are going for about £250 to £400 depending on age and condition.

as far as i know they were still being built up to the mid 90's. the new price then was £850 -£900 according to an old ASI price list i have.

HTH Seggy

[PPP]

Thank you Seggy Corkscrew.

And what about Anschutz 380? Anyone? Any help will be appreciated.

Regards,

Przemek.

[PPP]

TTT

[crmeyer]

The Anschutz 380 is a very nice air rifle. It was developed after the FWB 300S and thus has a few refinements - such as the receiver is stationary during firing. On the FWB 300 the entire action (peep sight included) recoils back a centimeter or so towards the shooter. You do quickly get used to it on the FWB 300S, but it is not an issue on the Anschutz. If you plan to put a scope on the air rifle, the FWB requires an airgun recoil proof scope where the Anschutz does not. In general I find the FWB 300S has a little more spring twang. As far as construction quality & material, both are very good but the FWB 300S is better.

The 380 came with either a plastic or wood cheek piece. I have used both and find that while the plastic one functions fine I do vastly prefer the wood cheek piece.

In the US, FWB 300S are much more common and sell for $750 USD and upwards for a perfect specimin, though nice ones can be found as low as $500 USD. Anschutz 380's sell for about the same but are harder to find.

Charle

[Zubair]

There is a group devoted for FWB 300, Here is the address,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FWB300airguns/

[PPP]

From what I have read I am leaning towards FWB 300S because of better build quality and less plastic parts.

I am going to mount a rather high magnification scope on this rifle. I am thinking of something like 6-20 or more (up to 32) or a target dedicated scope with fixed mag (over 15X and below 26x). I am aware that this scope must be airgun recoil-proof, but have no idea to what degree (which rifle has similar recoil force to 300S?). Should it be Leupold or Burris or less durable scope could do the job? Any suggestions appreciated.

Regards,

Przemek.

[corkscrew]

the 300s is primarily a 10M rifle, power is only rated at about 5fpe.
can i ask why you would want to fit a scope.?

regards Seggy

[PPP]

It's just personal preference when it goes to 10m target shooting. I like shooting scoped rifles instead of rifles with aperture sights. BTW 300S's with low power scopes were used in running target competition.

But the main reason for using the scope is the fact that the match rifle capable of 6fp can be used for target work/silhouette up to 25m with reasonable grouping - then a good high-power scope is a must.

[crmeyer]

I have used fixed power Leupold scopes with no problems on a FWB 300S. Because of the free recoiling of the action, the scope on a 300S sees harsher forces than you would on a normal spring airgun. The top of the receiver on the 300S has cross-slots for a cross pin in the rear peep sight to keep even that light weight piece from recoiling off from use. From experiece I know that without that pin the rear sight will shift off of the dovetails in a few shots.


Charles

[PPP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I have used fixed power Leupold scopes with no problems on a FWB 300S. [/quote]

Which Leupold fixed power scope focus down to 10meters? As far a I know Leupold offers only two scopes which focus down to 10meters/yards (both EFRs 6,5-20 and 3-9) but these are variables.

Any other suggestions? I does not have to be Leupold, but scope durable enough to withstand recoil of "recoiless" <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:--> FWB 300S. And must focus down to 10m of course.

Regards,

Przemek.

[crmeyer]

Leupold scopes can have their paralax readjusted by the factory to a fixed distance for very little money. My 300S Running Target rifle came with a 4X Leupold that was adjusted for 10m.

Charles