is there a pistol that rivals the hw45 in power,acuracy and build qaulity

[TARGET-MISSER]

well as in the title my brother has a hw45 and id like something different to him but id like something that rivals the hw45 in power (dont want to be shooting a target for a hour then the hw45 comes and blowes it to pieces ) and in accuracy and build qaulity but of similar price (200-300) probably asking alot

would this be

on par at all

http://www.drapers-airguns.co.uk/ind...9l90n3omj79q07

cheers t-m

[The Robin]

The Webley Alecto springs to mind, it's a great pistol. I own a HW45 Silver Star and my mate has the Alecto and to be honest the Alecto is easy to shoot with it having no recoil. Price wise of top of my head is about £210 ish mark, maybe a bit more now with the vat increase

[Taylor]

The Diana RWS LP8 is the natural rival to the HW45.

Try reading this thread.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....5-vs-Diana-LP8

Remember you can find yourself in a whole lot of trouble if you have an air pistol which is more powerful than the law allows.

[ashf9999]

The Diana RWS LP8 is the natural rival to the HW45.

Hmm, not totally sure about that. Whilst the LP8 is powerful, it is similar to a BSA Scorpion in terms of handling due to its size, and the fact the barrel is out front makes it unbalanced by comparison to the 45.

The Alecto is a good pistol, so I agree with Robin (and I see that there is a long-barreled version of the Zoraki HP-01 also available), but being mainly plastic the build quality isn't quite up there with the German number (though it is good plastic). Weights are similar, with the standard HW45 being about 1150 grams and the Alecto/standard HP-01 being slightly lighter by 50g.

Having both of the pistols in question (but not the LP8, though a friend does have one) I prefer (so yes, my personal preference) the Alecto, as the grips are more conducive to a good hold (gap narrowed slightly but not overcome if you get the Silver Star version). However, the HW45 outwardly looks more substantial.

Try the Alecto - it is cheaper and is a very good pistol, even if it is not really a Webley. The trigger is also more adjustable, and is easier to set the pistol up to most hand shapes. See if your local shop will let you try one if they have a range.

Only other combination of power/accuracy I can think of starts going down the PCP route.

[Taylor]

The Diana LP8 comes from the same heritage of German gun making as the HW45 ergo a natural rival. Has nothing to do with differences in design, of which there are.

The Alecto by comparison is an overly complicated poorly made piece of Turkish tat with a rubbish trigger. IMHO of course.

[magicniner]

If you want a short rifle with a pistol grip on it the LP8 sounds fine, you'd be better finding a good BSA Scorpion pistol though, as a semi collectable the scorpion is not going down in value after you buy it
There's a lot of big break barrel pistols that produce good power, there's a Browning about at the moment that's also quite good.
The Cometa Indian is a bit down on power over the HW-45 but it's a quirky bit of engineering if that takes your fancy and some reviewers really rate it's trigger.

As for matching the engineering of the HW-45 I really don't think any of them do
Read up & let us know what you choose, there are no wrong choices
Regards,
Nick

[ikarma70]

BSA Scorpion, Original 5/10, Crosman 1322/1377(if you don't mind pumping and very robustly built) but if you want something really good the FWB65/80 does about 4ft.lbs and is by far the most accurate spring pistol even out to 25 yards...a Rolls Royce of spring pistols.

[urx]

shame you cant still buy brococks and the like as a Taurus 6" revolver in .22 tac makes the HW45 look a bit limp. on the limit power and 6 shots in single or double action.

Not as immediately accesible as the single shot springer but mmmm much more satisfying.


The law change put SELF CONTAINED gas cartridge air guns into Sec5.1. However as per the muzzle loader conversions of the Taurus to take nitro and shotgun primer...it should be possible to create a setup where the air cart is loaded separately to the pellet (2 piece cylinder).....just a thought

[mickson]

well as in the title my brother has a hw45 and id like something different to him but id like something that rivals the hw45 in power (dont want to be shooting a target for a hour then the hw45 comes and blowes it to pieces ) and in accuracy and build qaulity but of similar price (200-300) probably asking alot

would this be

on par at all

http://www.drapers-airguns.co.uk/ind...9l90n3omj79q07

cheers t-m

B S A Magnum 240 was indeed a fine pistol & a possible contender...mike...

[Aardys]

my vote is also for the sheridan pistol , but it goes off like a cannon
otherwise i woulda kept mine, , must rank as one of the loudest air pistols ever i would think , great gun though will prolly only last a lifetime or three
i think a silencer spoils it a tad , so i gave it up .

[Ian]

my vote is also for the sheridan pistol , but it goes off like a cannon
otherwise i woulda kept mine, , must rank as one of the loudest air pistols ever i would think , great gun though will prolly only last a lifetime or three
i think a silencer spoils it a tad , so i gave it up .

And if I recall correctly I bought it off you!

Only to sell it a while later after fitting custom grips and a red dot. Silly of me.

Now have another two!

[Aardys]

And if I recall correctly I bought it off you!

Only to sell it a while later after fitting custom grips and a red dot. Silly of me.

Now have another two!

hahah yes i sorta wish i had of kept it just for club use i spose ,
maybe i will get another one day

[GRAZY]

I like many pistols for many reasons and I think some great ones are getting a mention on this thread. I agree that the bsa 240 has not the best grip but I think it has to be up there for style balance and power.
Just to add some more to the pot how about;Drulov DU-10 condor and FAS 604.

[air-tech]

B S A Magnum 240 was indeed a fine pistol & a possible contender...mike...

Disagree. The "magnum" moniker is truly misleading and the grip design is absolutely awful, must have been designed by a crab for a crab, not a human being.

Trigger not a patch on the HW45s either which as pointed out above, when adjusted properly offer seriously impressive performance.

I think the OP did well to buy what he did. If not an HW45 and one does not mind the fact that the running costs are not zero, a CO2 pistol from the likes of Crosman and co offer poke and accuracy and so many opportunities for customisation.

[mickson]

Disagree. The "magnum" moniker is truly misleading and the grip design is absolutely awful, must have been designed by a crab for a crab, not a human being.

Trigger not a patch on the HW45s either which as pointed out above, when adjusted properly offer seriously impressive performance.

I think the OP did well to buy what he did. If not an HW45 and one does not mind the fact that the running costs are not zero, a CO2 pistol from the likes of Crosman and co offer poke and accuracy and so many opportunities for customisation.

Each to their own i still prefer the Magnum, for me consistent & the grips were fine, i also agree with nick re the du10 a good consistent pistol with no problems, although i prefer the Zastava 45 clone despite its small grip...mike...