Buying a HW95 already tuned, Sandwell field sports or Welsh willie

[LeeO]

Cant speak for W willy's stuff,but only read good comment's so far,
Same for Tony-Bigtoe, good guy too,
I do like the SFS stuff I've owned,a spectre and a phantom,
really nice to use,
the 95 seem's to be the preffered work up model nowaday's, excellent platform to go on,
nice rifle as is new when a few tins in,
any chance there is a .22 spectre owner out there who might prefer a .177 ?
But as already said,
the main rifle reworker's all do a fine job, without having them all lined up to try in the same calibre,it'd be a tough one to opinionate on,
the mention of a banshee rebarreled 95 sold as real,
There was a banshee barrel sold on here a while back,although i'd hope that was a different one than the above mentioned etc,
and as a fyi,
the current banshee is around the 7 mark at last check,
which when you break down the part's isn't too unfair overall,
custom stock,worked up rifle,original rifle cost, etc,
my current go to favourite is the phantom, from SFS, not sure on the answer if my spectre was .22 though,lol,

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Will any of these professional tunes make the 95 more manageable in 177 calibre?

I was thinking of buying one ready tuned but set at 10ft lbs, because that is more than enough power for me. Would a tuned, 177 HW95 set at 10ft lbs still experience muzzle flip?

[bigtoe01]

Will any of these professional tunes make the 95 more manageable in 177 calibre?

I was thinking of buying one ready tuned but set at 10ft lbs, because that is more than enough power for me. Would a tuned, 177 HW95 set at 10ft lbs still experience barrel flip?

If a .177 a tune will make it very smooth at 10fpe, however when you actually look at what a tuner is doing 95% can be done by the end user if they are willing to open up the gun and take their time. What you need to remember is the lower power guns such as the 50 and 55 had a smaller swept volume and lighter piston...and there is a reason for this.

Saying that 10fpe from a 95 would still be nice using the standard hardware, good lube and a good polish

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Thanks BigToe.

Have a feeling, bearing in mind what you have said, that the HW35 might be a better option for me.

Tried the 95 twice (both new) in 177 and didn't like the firing manners. Just found them too light for the power they were putting out. Of course neither of them had been tuned. I did like the look and balance of them, though.

Another option would be to get an 80 and have it short stroked. Lot of extra weight though. What do you reckon?

[electric sheep]

I find good Moly and a cross hatched compression chamber make a huge difference, open transfer port depending on model, my 80 was 3.6 , better seal (V-Mach) and make sure your guides fit tight well as the spring fitting tight into piston. Cross hatching is easy and ensures constant lubrication behind the seal, good moly is essential to avoid galling. I like Maccari springs and a with the 95 a bit of weight on the top hat. Most springer recoil that is problamatic comes at the end of the stroke when it bounces off the remaining air, a profile on the transfer port and a decent seat for the pellet will in effect size a slightly over dia pellet and if the piston is balanced with weight and a good spring, bounce should be reduced. Thick wire less coils sems way to go, but I tuned mainly FAC many moons ago and found I could get a well .22 80 to shoot 20ft/lb with manners akin to a 12ft/lb. If i could find one I would tune an 85 as they tended to be made before tolerences fell. I also find a good polish on the end block flat helps the rear guide, short stroking i find harsh anhave had many arguments over long stroke thick wire low coil number guns versus high coil light short stroked guns. I prefer the former long term, consistent use. My current 77 has fired tens of thousands the same seal, spring and transfer seal with a 4fps average +/- . Don't over lube the main spring as it adds temp variations with viscosity and long-term migration. People often say PCP's are the only FAC option but a 97 at 19fpe is very useful around feeders and a great pigeon gun. Another myth is sound, a good tune and moderator mean i can hear thwhizz of my pellets and more vibration in the stock than sound that carries. One last easy tune is lead in the stock, balances the and again gives that pesky two way recoil a buffer. If I wanted a power tune long stroke 80 with mods will if the compression are is true and cross hatched, plus your piston is equally toleranced with a transfer seal and true barrel, you can have 22fpe and no more noise than a spring soaked in honey humopinion only.

[electric sheep]

Sorry spelling, syntax and grammer suffering due to slight personal issues

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Thanks but that kind of work is more than I am capable of.

[Rapidnick]

Thanks BigToe.

Have a feeling, bearing in mind what you have said, that the HW35 might be a better option for me.

Tried the 95 twice (both new) in 177 and didn't like the firing manners. Just found them too light for the power they were putting out. Of course neither of them had been tuned. I did like the look and balance of them, though.

Another option would be to get an 80 and have it short stroked. Lot of extra weight though. What do you reckon?

I agree with you totally. I have owned a genuine Banshee in .177 with a nice stock and it was really smooth and comfortable. The HW95 really doesn't get any better than this. However I could never tame the muzzle flip so could never achieve the accuracy I could with a HW80. I wish it were not so because the HW95 is such a neat package. I even tried one with a 98 shrouded barrel but although it tames the flip it makes the gun as heavy as a HW80 with normal K barrel so was a waste of effort. It seems that for my shooting style light carbine rigs just don't work however smooth the firing cycle actually is. For me the HW80 rules supreme in every calibre and at every power level. A true masterpiece but, as you say, it isn't small.

[TonyL]

Yep,

Even with an 80 in standard format, and even though you're aware all the time of that big, fat thumping piston, I've always felt that the soft, lazy cycle and all-up weight helps.

When I used to do a lot of bunny hunting, more of them fell to my Mark 1 .22 with standard Venom tune than any of my other rifles.

Even with the standard bore and stroke they're a formidable rifle and not really THAT heavy unless you're very small.

Of course, they are much sweeter once Lazaglided/V-Glided/sleeved down or down- stroked, but the standard gun is still excellent and capable of fine accuracy. And it's virtually bomb-proof.

[goonertim]

Cheers for all the feedback guys, I've finally bitten the Bullet(pellet) and bought an almost new SFS tuned .22 HW95 off of butch on here, Just waiting for my new toy to arrive.!!!