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    hi

    Gooner have you checked Sandwell Field Sports out on you tube . And you can see what Tony is like .

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    Not had any dealings with Tony (but he is well respected).....but I have with Will and he is a top bloke, always very helpful and a pleasure to deal with
    LOOKING FOR A BSA ULTRA IN .177 and .25

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    I'd opt for SFS but I'm biase
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    You're likely to get lots of thumbs up for Tony because nowhere near as many folks will have dealt with Will for a tuned gun - more folks will have bought tuning kits from him, which represent excellent value and offer great results.

    I've dealt with both Will and Tony and unless you're going to spring for a stage 2 tune from SFS there's nothing to separate them IMHO.

    What are (or were) you looking for ?

    I only ask out of curiosity, and because I was lamenting the fact that I never use my tuned .20 HW95 any more.

    It was looking at me very forlornly when I was rummaging in the cabinet today

    Mine was formerly Venom tuned, as in, tuned by Venom, back when they were still Venom.

    These days there seems to be a lot of guns advertised as 'Venom tuned' because it had an after-market DIY kit fitted; so many guns are advertised as Venom tuned when they aren't - often I'm sure it's not a deliberate attempt to deceive, but sometimes....



    Mine now has a Vortek kit installed but still has the old Venom cobra sticker on the cylinder

    Anyhoo, I digress.

    Will does a superb tune, he's a wonderful character and a true gent with excellent customer service. You could say pretty much exactly the same about Tony though. It might come down to which is closer to you...

    Good luck finding what you're looking for - the 95 is a great all-rounder and light enough to carry and shoot all day

    EDIT: just to be clear I was referring to Tony Wall from SFS in the above.
    Last edited by Spr1nger; 30-05-2013 at 09:56 PM.

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    I have a sfs stage 2 tuned 97kt and it is amazing I just love this rifle.
    Check out verminhuntertv on you tube there are 4 videos of si pittaway at sfs
    Looking round and getting rifles tuned.
    He has quite a few tuned rifles from tony.its well worth a look his new spectre which
    Started life as an hw 95 he hit beer bottle tops at 60 meters in .22 phenomenal gun and shooting

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    If I were an RFD and I tuned these guns professionally here is what I would do...and what I have just done to my 95/98

    Shorten the piston stroke to 74mm, add front piston bearing (10mm wide PTFE) lighten piston to 250g and add 3x8mm buttons to rear, true piston to rod.
    TP opened to 3.6mm
    new HW seal...new type is more efficient(although it looks like they have withdrawn them) and gun 100% lubed with Krytox
    Spring is a new spec I have been working on with Wonky Donky, its based on the LGV spring but of better quality and sized to fit HW pistons superbly
    new tophat and rear guide ( I still have to make the rear guide, using a standard one for the moment while i test)
    Deburr and polish cocking slot, size cocking shoe and polish.
    Quick release cocking lever axis pin ( i did it JB style this time with a flat on the pin and 4mm grub screw tapped on the underside of the hole to hold it)
    Full trigger tune and Rowan straight setback blade, 3mm 1st stage, medium weight and crisp let off
    Mine has a 98 barrel but on a 95 it would get either a shroud or at minimum a 280g barrel/muzzle weight on a 410mm barrel...blued to match. Something like the barrel weight on fatwelshboys.

    However, there is way more than 200quids worth of work there and no one wants to pay...so i just do my own.

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    I have an sfs spectre and its the rifle i pick up most often...even before a v glided 77 and 97...or even an airwolf for that matter..

    Dont know about Welsh Willy but i'm sure he's very good too.

    A sfs tuned 95 would be a hard to beat tuned springer imvho.

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    Cool I bet you cant say all that in one breath!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe01 View Post
    If I were an RFD and I tuned these guns professionally here is what I would do...and what I have just done to my 95/98

    Shorten the piston stroke to 74mm, add front piston bearing (10mm wide PTFE) lighten piston to 250g and add 3x8mm buttons to rear, true piston to rod.
    TP opened to 3.6mm
    new HW seal...new type is more efficient(although it looks like they have withdrawn them) and gun 100% lubed with Krytox
    Spring is a new spec I have been working on with Wonky Donky, its based on the LGV spring but of better quality and sized to fit HW pistons superbly
    new tophat and rear guide ( I still have to make the rear guide, using a standard one for the moment while i test)
    Deburr and polish cocking slot, size cocking shoe and polish.
    Quick release cocking lever axis pin ( i did it JB style this time with a flat on the pin and 4mm grub screw tapped on the underside of the hole to hold it)
    Full trigger tune and Rowan straight setback blade, 3mm 1st stage, medium weight and crisp let off
    Mine has a 98 barrel but on a 95 it would get either a shroud or at minimum a 280g barrel/muzzle weight on a 410mm barrel...blued to match. Something like the barrel weight on fatwelshboys.

    However, there is way more than 200quids worth of work there and no one wants to pay...so i just do my own.
    That sounds awesome
    "corners should be round" Theo Evo .22/.177 - Meopta 6x42, DS huntsman classic .20 vortex razor LH 3-15x42 under supervised boingrati tuning by Tony L & Tinbum, HW77 forest green - Nikon prostaff 2-7x32 plex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe01 View Post
    If I were an RFD and I tuned these guns professionally here is what I would do...and what I have just done to my 95/98

    Shorten the piston stroke to 74mm, add front piston bearing (10mm wide PTFE) lighten piston to 250g and add 3x8mm buttons to rear, true piston to rod.
    TP opened to 3.6mm
    new HW seal...new type is more efficient(although it looks like they have withdrawn them) and gun 100% lubed with Krytox
    Spring is a new spec I have been working on with Wonky Donky, its based on the LGV spring but of better quality and sized to fit HW pistons superbly
    new tophat and rear guide ( I still have to make the rear guide, using a standard one for the moment while i test)
    Deburr and polish cocking slot, size cocking shoe and polish.
    Quick release cocking lever axis pin ( i did it JB style this time with a flat on the pin and 4mm grub screw tapped on the underside of the hole to hold it)
    Full trigger tune and Rowan straight setback blade, 3mm 1st stage, medium weight and crisp let off
    Mine has a 98 barrel but on a 95 it would get either a shroud or at minimum a 280g barrel/muzzle weight on a 410mm barrel...blued to match. Something like the barrel weight on fatwelshboys.

    However, there is way more than 200quids worth of work there and no one wants to pay...so i just do my own.
    WOW, Thanks for the answer bigtoe01, I'll start saving,!!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe01 View Post
    If I were an RFD and I tuned these guns professionally here is what I would do...and what I have just done to my 95/98

    Shorten the piston stroke to 74mm, add front piston bearing (10mm wide PTFE) lighten piston to 250g and add 3x8mm buttons to rear, true piston to rod.
    TP opened to 3.6mm
    new HW seal...new type is more efficient(although it looks like they have withdrawn them) and gun 100% lubed with Krytox
    Spring is a new spec I have been working on with Wonky Donky, its based on the LGV spring but of better quality and sized to fit HW pistons superbly
    new tophat and rear guide ( I still have to make the rear guide, using a standard one for the moment while i test)
    Deburr and polish cocking slot, size cocking shoe and polish.
    Quick release cocking lever axis pin ( i did it JB style this time with a flat on the pin and 4mm grub screw tapped on the underside of the hole to hold it)
    Full trigger tune and Rowan straight setback blade, 3mm 1st stage, medium weight and crisp let off
    Mine has a 98 barrel but on a 95 it would get either a shroud or at minimum a 280g barrel/muzzle weight on a 410mm barrel...blued to match. Something like the barrel weight on fatwelshboys.

    However, there is way more than 200quids worth of work there and no one wants to pay...so i just do my own.
    Is that all.??? lol, I'll start saving

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe01 View Post
    However, there is way more than 200quids worth of work there and no one wants to pay...so i just do my own.
    Looks like I better start saving.

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