Praise to the titan mpt

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Just back from a hellova enjoyable hour and a halves shooting on a small horse paddock I control the rabbits on, 12 bunnies had from a single warren in the corner, slight breeze, sunny clear night and my titan mpt which continues to please me no end.
I got this rifle given to me a year or so ago and bloody love it. Short and light, suiting my shooting style, accurate enough to make 40yard single raggedy holes with 5 shots and basically a class gun in my eyes,.
It does have a few little niggles, no safety, the separate bolts for cocking and loading....
But generally (if you had not guessed already) I love it.
Now though. I would like to up the power ......(sticky area I know but I am a fac holder),
And wondering if anyone knows:
1, how high can it reasonably be taken,
2, who would be the one to send it to to do it,
3, would the cost mean I would be better off keeping it as is .( I have another fac air rifle, not that interested in powder burners).
Any insights great fully received.

[Two200's]

Absolutely better off to leave well alone.

Not enough air on board.

Suffer awfully from harmonics - basically a wave which passes through the gun.

Go for a buddy bottle gun. It's the real way forward.

[Ali-C]

I'd have thought John Bowkett would be the chap to talk to, seeing as he designed it and whatnot. Whilst I can agree with Two200's in that a buddy bottle rifle such as a Rapid or Super10 is the far more practical choice for an FAC rifle, I am also a massive Titan/Falcon fan and I'd say why not? If you can get it running consistently then go for it, and if you need hundreds of shots then a bottle can be kept in the car, can it not? I like older guns with a bit of character.


...Or maybe I'm just a masochist what likes PCPs that are old and break a lot.

[horizontalhero]

A shot count of twenty to thirty would be ample as on my permissions I am
Never too far from my truck and bottle to top up. I just love the older style, really am not a fan of buddy bottle rifles, my brother and best mate both have daystate air wolfs and just don't like em.....
Find them nose heavy. So will drop mr bowle a
Line and see what happens

[p.sharp]

25-30 shots at 25ftlbs with a 19" iirc.

Is it worth halving the rifles worth for so little shot count?

[westy306]

These are getting rare. Nice to see someone still using one in the field.

The harmonics can be sorted by fitting a detwanger in the air cylinder.

Mines a keeper, which is going on the wall when it's nolonger serviceable.
Just found a Beeman SS2 scope to go on mine.
I like a nice bit of walnut and brass

[Steyr]

25-30 shots at 25ftlbs with a 19" iirc.

Is it worth halving the rifles worth for so little shot count?

How many rabbits can you carry?

10 rabbits is a decent bag for anyone.

Titan - worth anything....hmmmm

I don't like them personally.....ugly and separate probe for pellet and separate bolt......No thanks.

Worth converting to FAC - debatable. I would get it priced up if I were the OP and make the conversion cost the factor that decides combined with how much grunt it can take before it goes a bit tits up. May make the decision for you

[horizontalhero]

I agree with a lot of what's been said, but the possibility of resale value lowering is not an issue as this will never be sold. It's one of those that I would like to do then just keep it. As I have mentioned I have another fac rated rifle already that is used for any big nights shooting but for some of my smaller permissions it fits the bill perfectly.

[p.sharp]

How many rabbits can you carry?

8 at a squeeze in my rucksack, 50 or so in the boot of my car.

25-30 shots @ 25ftlbs & a full charge is nothing, as by the time you hit the sweet spot, you realistically get less than 20 shots. Obviously you could go to 18ftlbs or lower, but what would that gain? An extra 15yrds?

I'd rather have 90 shots & walk closer tbh.

[DEAN C.]

As someone who has owned an MPT previously, and regretted selling it ever since, I would say this is a definite no no.

You will get hardly any shots from the carbine 12" cylinder, not the 25 shots mentioned for a 19" Falcon/Titan, as this is a tiny semi bullpup carbine. I would probably half that for the shorter cylinder.

No one will buy an FAC PCP with so low a shot count. They are collectable and definitely worth more than a standard Titan or falcon. The cylinder on them is tiny in comparison to most other guns, never mind a buddy bottle gun.

I would keep it as it is. Also most counties FAO's will not allow it to back to a non FAC once converted, so it will be forever on FAC, and valueless. I also don't think that they are heavy enough to get the best accuracy at the slightly higher distances that you might achieve, and I doubt if gaining an extra 10 yards is really worth it.
Just sell it to me and buy a Rapid.

[Two200's]

These are getting rare. Nice to see someone still using one in the field.

The harmonics can be sorted by fitting a detwanger in the air cylinder.

Mines a keeper, which is going on the wall when it's nolonger serviceable.
Just found a Beeman SS2 scope to go on mine.
I like a nice bit of walnut and brass

I am talking harmonics, not resonance.
The waveform at 18ft lbs in a 19" action can be felt and seen with the naked eye!

I have witnessed it myself.

As for 25 or 30 shots, I would bet more like 4.

If you have to charge up so often, its impossibe to know what your gun will do.

I have a fn12 and its a superb gun, but it would be the very worst gun in the world to get anything over 12. A bit more air in the 19" will not make a blind bit of difference.

These guns are superb at 10.5 - 11 and a bitch at anything more.

It will knock itself to bits before you finish a tin of pellets.

[rabbitman]

Bear in mind these airguns are well over 20 years old
If you haven't had it internally inspected
for corrosion I would recommend so.I called a
Day on airgun repairs when I started to get
Pcps which looked mint on the outside full
Of rust inside the cylinder.

[nat1]

Personally i'd keep it standard at 12ftlb because of it's rarity.(also incase you ever surrender your Fac!)

However, 10 or so years ago i used to do all my air-rifle hunting with an FN12 in .22 on fac @ 18ftlb, gave a good 25 shots and accurate as hell with prems/accupell.

Just my 2 peneth, Atb,Woody.