Spring Bash 4th and 5th May 2024

[flyingfish]

Do Weirauch make rifles Pete?

[look no hands]

Do Weirauch make rifles Pete?

Not really

[TonyL]

Do Weirauch make rifles Pete?

Not really

Hahaha!

Seriously, though......just have a think for a few minutes if Weihrauch airguns didn't exist, or if they hadn't started to become popular over here in the late 70s / early 80s, how different things might have turned out? Would BSA and Webley have just sat on their laurels and just kept taking the easy money for as long as they could or would they have developed their ranges into more modern, more accurate and better engineered guns? Competition usually drives more competition and further development / improvements. But, as we're all too painfully aware, many of their better guns came far too late to salvage the situation......the Longbow, Tomahawk, Stingray, Xocet, Omega, Eclipse, Superstar etc........how different things may have been had the development and launches of these happened a few years earlier.......

[CapitalBee]

It seems to have been the way with British industry in that era Tone; carry on making what you always did, smug in the fact that you're the best, then get overtaken by foreign competition and make a half arsed attempt to catch up before rolling over, belly up (air rifles, cars, motorcycles, the list goes on..)

[TonyL]

100% absolutely, Mark, and so sad.

[look no hands]

It seems to have been the way with British industry in that era Tone; carry on making what you always did, smug in the fact that you're the best, then get overtaken by foreign competition and make a half arsed attempt to catch up before rolling over, belly up (air rifles, cars, motorcycles, the list goes on..)

100% absolutely, Mark, and so sad.

Totally agree unfortunately, this is why I used to go off on one about the 99, it should be the British manufacturers making the best suited rifle for our power limit.

[oldskoolzzz]

Hahaha!

Seriously, though......just have a think for a few minutes if Weihrauch airguns didn't exist, or if they hadn't started to become popular over here in the late 70s / early 80s, how different things might have turned out? Would BSA and Webley have just sat on their laurels and just kept taking the easy money for as long as they could or would they have developed their ranges into more modern, more accurate and better engineered guns? Competition usually drives more competition and further development / improvements. But, as we're all too painfully aware, many of their better guns came far too late to salvage the situation......the Longbow, Tomahawk, Stingray, Xocet, Omega, Eclipse, Superstar etc........how different things may have been had the development and launches of these happened a few years earlier.......

Certainly an interesting one can you imagine Air Arms having no Weihrauch competition would that mean they would have never been born? Not to mention how triggers would have evolved 🤔

[look no hands]

Certainly an interesting one can you imagine Air Arms having no Weihrauch competition would that mean they would have never been born? Not to mention how triggers would have evolved 🤔

But at least they might have a break barrel

[oldskoolzzz]

But at least they might have a break barrel

Or 2 or 9

[oldskoolzzz]

Certainly an interesting one can you imagine Air Arms having no Weihrauch competition would that mean they would have never been born? Not to mention how triggers would have evolved 🤔

Maybe even Theoben could have had a massive influence if they had expanded a little eg springer break barrels alongside rammers much needed better triggers, perhaps single shot under levers both ram and spring alongside the Multishot.

[flyingfish]

In my opinion and much as I love them Theoben are the epitome of sitting on your laurels
The Rapid was (and still is) great
I love my 2 rammers
But just a bit more development would have made a huge difference
For accuracy up to 80 yards there is no difference between my RAW and friends Steyrs which shows what could be achieved

[oldskoolzzz]

In my opinion and much as I love them Theoben are the epitome of sitting on your laurels
The Rapid was (and still is) great
I love my 2 rammers
But just a bit more development would have made a huge difference
For accuracy up to 80 yards there is no difference between my RAW and friends Steyrs which shows what could be achieved

Totally agree, always had a soft spot for rapids and I’ve embarrassingly had far too many that I really should have kept.

Had a fair few Theoben rammers as well but could never quite gel with them it’s always the trigger that disappoints although I think being so used to the rekord and CD has somewhat contributed to instant dislike of many other manual labour type rifles which annoys me as even half decent triggers still don’t get a look in when I’m so used to an excellent trigger.

Ironically this only affects me with boingers/rammers as pcps I really don’t mind when it comes to triggers although holding back a piddly little hammer spring is a million miles away from a huge dirty garage door spring

[oldskoolzzz]

I've mentioned that in the past, betters triggers are a must, they where built really well, also had excellent stocks and what ever length barrel turned you on.

Maybe even Theoben could have had a massive influence if they had expanded a little eg springer break barrels alongside rammers much needed better triggers, perhaps single shot under levers both ram and spring alongside the Multishot.

Never seen this very short video before a hybrid single shot Theoben/impact under lever

https://youtu.be/WVCUnTxqN7E?si=pK0YmoTn7B0vwUuI

[Waddy]

Put the destination into Waze, (the best & free phone sat nav app,) and it turns out I'm better off avoiding the M1 completely, either via the A1 or down the A15 via Lincolnshire
.... So I won't be going to Nandos after all . Bugger. Probably a KFC then . I take it the venue is the second gate that goes down a track next to the train line ?

[look no hands]

Maybe even Theoben could have had a massive influence if they had expanded a little eg springer break barrels alongside rammers much needed better triggers, perhaps single shot under levers both ram and spring alongside the Multishot.

I've mentioned that in the past, betters triggers are a must, they where built really well, also had excellent stocks and what ever length barrel turned you on.