Conman: The ratcatcher

[Rativity]

The fella hasn’t replied, he shut the conversation down after NO Refund.

Obviously he’s known something was not right, I did think why he was selling it after only 2 weeks, but that wasn’t the case. It’s 4 months old not 2 weeks! which I was told before I bought it, he then asked for bank tranfer.

Something isn’t right here very suspicious

If the rifle is as good as he says it is then why no to refund? Makes me think it was all planned which is obviously dishonest on his part.

He said it maybe be the scope which I said I’d try another (new scope landed today) which I purchased for this rifle looks like that was a waste of money too.

I’ve heard nothing from him, he hasn’t replied here just total shutdown!

He knew before sending it, he has until tomorrow to get in touch and come up with something to sort this bad deal out then I will have no choice but to contact fraud,
Police and bank which isn’t going to be nice for him..

[Mach 1.5]

I'd also drop brocock an email tomorrow for advice. Explain the situation and they might just help out by investigating what is wrong with one of their products? It's worth a go? Mach 1.5

[Rativity]

I'd also drop brocock an email tomorrow for advice. Explain the situation and they might just help out by investigating what is wrong with one of their products? It's worth a go? Mach 1.5

Thanks for the advice. I have already called the shop that the rifle was purchased from. I was told that no it would have to be brought in by the original purchaser with proof of I’d, the shop are a train brocock specialist and take on all warranty work, which is what I’ve been told.

With over 3k posts I’d of thought the ratcatcher was a responsible genuine fella, he can’t even be bothered to reply to a MOD above!

I have his adress/details. The fruad team will shut his account down instantly while they get my funds returned… then he can drive the 3hrs and pick it up if he wants to play it that way, like I said I’m getting my cash back doesn’t matter what I have to do

[Unframed Dave]

Thanks for the advice. I have already called the shop that the rifle was purchased from. I was told that no it would have to be brought in by the original purchaser with proof of I’d, the shop are a train brocock specialist and take on all warranty work, which is what I’ve been told.

With over 3k posts I’d of thought the ratcatcher was a responsible genuine fella, he can’t even be bothered to reply to a MOD above!

I have his adress/details. The fruad team will shut his account down instantly while they get my funds returned… then he can drive the 3hrs and pick it up if he wants to play it that way, like I said I’m getting my cash back doesn’t matter what I have to do

I have had a reply, no new information has been given at this stage. Essentially it is one person's word against another.

I am hopeful of a win win situation to resolve this, but some cooperation on both sides will be needed.

If a mutually satisfactory solution isn't achievable, then indeed formal action outside of the forum may be your best recourse.

Dave

[Unframed Dave]

In all fairness, we need to give Ratcatcher a chance to reply. I appreciate that this isn't a good situation, and emotions come into play, but he has sold very many items on here without problems. (Before anyone jumps in about lego, I am aware of that, but please bear in mind we are talking about something that occurred 8 years ago).

At this point for all anyone else knows, the rifle was sold in good faith.

Please allow a little patience in pursuing a response. I'm fairly certain the seller won't have appreciated being called a conman on an open part of a public forum.

Dave

[bongobango]

To clarify the police won't do anything, it's a civil matter between you and him not criminal.

If indeed he did purchase it recently, if I remember it was a local purchase maybe range and country in Sleaford?. It is unlikely to be an issue on sale as they check all their gear before it goes out the door, including the second hand stuff they sell on. In that case it may be worth checking with them, they won't have sold many of them. Maybe the seller tried to return it after fiddling with it?..if so they might be able to provide extra evidence, for your civil claim, if things dont get sorted to your satisfaction.

It certainly sounds a little suspicious....

Just an idea.

Bongo

[WebleyWombler]

He knew before sending it, he has until tomorrow to get in touch and come up with something to sort this bad deal out then I will have no choice but to contact fraud,
Police and bank which isn’t going to be nice for him..

I think you will be disappointed if you contact the police. they will simply refer you to Trading standards who will then tell you it is nothing to do with them as it is a private sale.
Not sure what action you can take with the bank but don't expect miracles.All your posts come through sounding very irate and if that was the tone of your contact with him? I can understand why he cut you off

Can't see any intimation of fraud at all, just possibly mis described goods

Be careful your actions don't backfire on you.

[Gary C]

The fella hasn’t replied, he shut the conversation down after NO Refund.

Obviously he’s known something was not right, I did think why he was selling it after only 2 weeks, but that wasn’t the case. It’s 4 months old not 2 weeks! which I was told before I bought it, he then asked for bank tranfer.

Something isn’t right here very suspicious

If the rifle is as good as he says it is then why no to refund? Makes me think it was all planned which is obviously dishonest on his part.

He said it maybe be the scope which I said I’d try another (new scope landed today) which I purchased for this rifle looks like that was a waste of money too.

I’ve heard nothing from him, he hasn’t replied here just total shutdown!

He knew before sending it, he has until tomorrow to get in touch and come up with something to sort this bad deal out then I will have no choice but to contact fraud,
Police and bank which isn’t going to be nice for him..

Police and Bank? You may as well call Ghostbusters and Batman.
This is a civil matter

[rapidresponse1]

your right no one will be interested

[Thamesides]

your right no one will be interested

No you are wrong(I mean airgunners are).We are & hoping for a good outcome for you & your boy

[angrybear]

Given that subsequent events have shown the rifle actually has a recurring intermittent fault,
personally I think it tends to support the sellers position that he sold it in 100% excellent working order,
& as such he was not obliged to give a refund.

[Shed tuner]

Given that subsequent events have shown the rifle actually has a recurring intermittent fault,
personally I think it tends to support the sellers position that he sold it in 100% excellent working order,
& as such he was not obliged to give a refund.

I think the firt part of your statement is right, but the I think the big problem with the seller was his unwillingness to persue the warranty claim himself, which as the origininal owner he could easily have done...

But the title of this thread is clearly misleading with what we know now.

[angrybear]

I think the firt part of your statement is right, but the I think the big problem with the seller was his unwillingness to persue the warranty claim himself, which as the origininal owner he could easily have done...

But the title of this thread is clearly misleading with what we know now.

Yes he could have,
but he might have bought it used himself & so not had any warranty.
Equally if he did have a warranty, why would he take it back with the risk that BSA would reject the claim as caused by misuse, which is clearly what he thought was the case.

I agree about the thread title.

[where's it gone]

I'm watching this thread with interest as Brocock do have some nice airguns, but a watch pot never boils !

[T 20]

I think the big problem with the seller was his unwillingness to persue the warranty claim himself, which as the origininal owner he could easily have done...

But the title of this thread is clearly misleading with what we know now.

Unfortunately, Jon.

With the Ratcatcher's unwillingness to try to correct the situation when contacted, I'm now wondering if the problem had already shown itself before he sold it.

Either way Ratcatcher would have lost sales access or been banned due to his high volume of sales whether there was an underlying problem with the gun or not.





I could change the thread tittle to "Conan the Ratcatcher" if you like --- it would look like a prequel to "Conan the Barbarian" then.





All the best Mick