Love/hate relationship with Weihrauch

[Steyr]

Nope. Never had this issue at all. Whack in some more grub screws but it isnt necessary imho

I have found the 100 to be very resiliant indeed as is. Many a time I have tapped the barrel ( I do a lot of vehicle shooting) so contacting doors or such happens. Never had a single shift in zero. The barrel is a decent diameter unlike the S400 garden cane for example and the mounting is deep and certainly robust in the field. In fairness, the omly rifle that shifted POI i ever had was a GML S400. Most others have been fine. If you want to over engineer then no issue but as is it is not a common problem. I have seen a mate use his S400 as a pogo stick at a HFT when he slipped but even then, releasingvthe fig 8 brought it back near to original zero. He did rezero afterwards but the POI was a small shift

[oldskoolzzz]

Nope. Never had this issue at all. Whack in some more grub screws but it isnt necessary imh

Inhave found the 100 to be very resiliant indeed as is. Many a time I have tapped the nartel ( I do a lot of vehicle shooting) so contacting doors or such happens. Neverchad a single shift in zero

Out of interest Steyr,

Is your experience mainly K or with full lengths?

What’s brought this up is on my full length even just standing the rifle in the cabinet it’s extremely obvious there is barrel movement even with the interference fit OEM barrel band and o ring still in situ.

Which makes me wonder why it’s actually fitted in the first place.

The OEM grubscrew is nipped up and I’m aware go too tight and it can cause breech issues so it’s literally small end of Allen key nipped up as per the usual advice just enough to stop any spinning from the usual stuck silencer routine which usually is what upsets them.

But it does not give me any confidence to do a full free floating barrel knowing that the barrel has slight movement.

It’s not a biggy and don’t get me wrong as you mention maybe a storm in a teacup but from many other threads and searches I’ve noticed quite a few back in the day did the extra grubscrew(s) modification for this exact problem.

Maybe I just have a particularly sloppy example or it becomes more obvious once a barrel has ever been spun or removed and refitted etc.

[Steyr]

It could be a one off. I have never had any barrel movement and my rifle has no barrel band - fig 8 or modified singles. Its of some age... one of the last before they were fitted with ATs. Its a .177 sporter ratworked and a adj butt and cheekpeice.

It doesnt spin. The mod can be removed with ease and nipped up tight with no issue. Mag system works fine othervthan when I overtightened but easily corrected.

If you are getting ANY movement in the barrel its is not the norm. If its in warranty, then get it back. If not, then maybe a gunsmith to ID what is wrong.

I dont know if you have any other mates with a 100 but if you do, maybe a barrel swap even if only to see if the wobble moves from one rifle action to the other. Then put their barrel onto yours to see if the wobble stays with your action which suggests its an issue with your action or if it swaps and the other barrel stays solid then it suggests the machining on you barrel has an issue.

In all my time I have shot with fellow 100 users, I have not come across this issue in real life other than ignorance on the part of the user. Its always helpful to mark the barrel at the 12 oclock mark so the barrel goes in the same orientarion.

I sometimes take the barrel out to clean it more easily and I don't even recall any significant POI shift either....

[Muskett]

Just buy an Air Arms
In the old days just buy a Theoben.

A heck of a lot of HWs have been sold. Most would benefit from a light fettle tune, and then they are rather good.
I only own one, a fully tuned 95.
New ones aren't getting better as the years go by.

[oldskoolzzz]

Just buy an Air Arms
In the old days just buy a Theoben.

A heck of a lot of HWs have been sold. Most would benefit from a light fettle tune, and then they are rather good.
I only own one, a fully tuned 95.
New ones aren't getting better as the years go by.

Must admit Muskett, I really do miss not having a rapid

Stooopid boy cutting many a decent rapid loose

AA are decent been around the houses many times but nothing really floats my boat with them at the minute.

I agree about new stuff though sadly now the world is run by accountants the only interest from a manufacture is getting your money QT and the customer doing the R&D as the test mule

Long gone are the days where QC was actually a thing.

[Steyr]

Is it the barrel wobbling or is it the mod.

One issue I found is the bed of the stock may not be flat
A lot is milled out so my stock was folled and levelled.

I only use the main stock screw to hold the action in and I noticex it was rocking.

Bit of attention and rocking sorted

[oldskoolzzz]

Is it the barrel wobbling or is it the mod.

One issue I found is the bed of the stock may not be flat
A lot is milled out so my stock was folled and levelled.

I only use the main stock screw to hold the action in and I noticex it was rocking.

Bit of attention and rocking sorted

It’s definitely barrel movement,

Currently the silencer is removed and if I lean the rifle up in my cabinet I can clearly feel what I would call flex in the barrel setup.

And that’s with the original barrel band and o ring fitted.

I’ll test it tomorrow with the o ring removed from the barrel band but I’m pretty sure even with that extra mm clearance the barrel will hit the band with its movement.

I have to assume Weihrauch fit these interference barrel bands for 3 reasons.

1) It’s extra support
2) harmonics
3) to protect against barrel knocks

But as the comp boys know once any movement from the stock/cylinder comes into play this can and does affect POI shifts with the band connecting to the barrel (o ring fitted etc)

My issue is I simply don’t think the barrel is secure enough to be 100% floated ok it’s not going anywhere as in being pulled out the breech etc but that movement is just pi$$ poor IMO

[oldskoolzzz]

It could be a one off. I have never had any barrel movement and my rifle has no barrel band - fig 8 or modified singles. Its of some age... one of the last before they were fitted with ATs. Its a .177 sporter ratworked and a adj butt and cheekpeice.

It doesnt spin. The mod can be removed with ease and nipped up tight with no issue. Mag system works fine othervthan when I overtightened but easily corrected.

If you are getting ANY movement in the barrel its is not the norm. If its in warranty, then get it back. If not, then maybe a gunsmith to ID what is wrong.

I dont know if you have any other mates with a 100 but if you do, maybe a barrel swap even if only to see if the wobble moves from one rifle action to the other. Then put their barrel onto yours to see if the wobble stays with your action which suggests its an issue with your action or if it swaps and the other barrel stays solid then it suggests the machining on you barrel has an issue.

In all my time I have shot with fellow 100 users, I have not come across this issue in real life other than ignorance on the part of the user. Its always helpful to mark the barrel at the 12 oclock mark so the barrel goes in the same orientarion.

I sometimes take the barrel out to clean it more easily and I don't even recall any significant POI shift either....

Cheers Steyr,

No it’s a 2016 model year so well out of warranty and was a used purchase.

I can’t see any signs of abuse just the usual scenario where the silencer had locked up tight and a previous owner tried to remove it which spun the barrel.

Seen this happen on a few previous examples before as the telltale being the HC serial number not being lined up in its usual place etc.

Usually though a simple tweek on the single factory grubscrew has been all that’s needed before but they were on K versions as I’ve not usually gone down the full length barrel route.

I think being the longer barrel it’s exaggerated what I can feel with this current example which has hardly had any use it’s been sat unused by previous owner for quite sometime but as mentioned it’s no real biggy just annoying which led me onto the extra security method for the barrel etc.

I honestly can’t see it as a problem gun just more one that needs a tad more belt and braces for me to be 100% confident with it.

[TRS1]

Out of interest Steyr,

Is your experience mainly K or with full lengths?

What’s brought this up is on my full length even just standing the rifle in the cabinet it’s extremely obvious there is barrel movement even with the interference fit OEM barrel band and o ring still in situ.

Which makes me wonder why it’s actually fitted in the first place.

The OEM grubscrew is nipped up and I’m aware go too tight and it can cause breech issues so it’s literally small end of Allen key nipped up as per the usual advice just enough to stop any spinning from the usual stuck silencer routine which usually is what upsets them.

But it does not give me any confidence to do a full free floating barrel knowing that the barrel has slight movement.

It’s not a biggy and don’t get me wrong as you mention maybe a storm in a teacup but from many other threads and searches I’ve noticed quite a few back in the day did the extra grubscrew(s) modification for this exact problem.

Maybe I just have a particularly sloppy example or it becomes more obvious once a barrel has ever been spun or removed and refitted etc.

I had this issue with an FSB HW100 7 or 8 years ago.. replaced it with a screw cut K barrel and issue and accuracy probs solved.

However, the ergonomics of it just didn't work for me, and moved it on for an S400.

Shame, I really wanted to like it, and on paper I did!