Quote Originally Posted by Two200's View Post
I tested the grip vs velocity on a springer - quite crudely - about 5 years ago.

I held a hw97 in a number of different ways - while shooting through a chrono.

The tight holds had the velocity bouncing up and down like a brides nightdress.

The more passive holds had a much better result.

I know all thats not news, but it was clearly visible and proved that most springers - even the least hold sensitive - need a consistent shooting style.


Also - I found an AWESOME way to bed a springer into a stock once.
Sheet lead cut into a semicircle and pressed home behind the trigger block and the stock.
This planished itself into an amazing bed for the back of the rifle.

We are not talking thick sheet, just 1.5mm thick.
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Jim's article was studying the effects on recoil and surge of the thumb up position, and found that, with the thumb being muscly and quite "springy" it reduced the first recoil stage slightly, but increased the surge. And, where the pellet exits, the graph showing surge acceleration was much steeper with the thumb up, meaning that the pellet could exit at different angles of inclination of the muzzle, leading to inconsistency.

I've never tested for muzzle velocity variation whilst employing different holds, but have seen it quoted sometimes....another minefield!

Myself, and many others, have often extolled the virtues of a stock design which encourages more straight line recoil in a springer. Obviously other factors are also important, like weight and its distribution. And this latest experiment makes me apprecaite why I really like my two Thumbhole stocks. But then, I suppose, we'd also have to study the design there as, if the fit to the "web" of the hand twixt thumb and index finger wasn't correct, this could also create an area of resistance to rearwards travel.

As we all know, correct springer technique is all about relaxed hold and letting the rifle do its thang!


For the bedding disc at the rear of the action, I wonder if leather would also be quite useful?


He's good is that Jim! Really gets your mind mulling over different ideas!