I have one on order --a lad that shoots near me had two I had a go with it --it was very good I couldn't find nothing not to like about it --he one "whish I new" I had the pp700 with a fitted folding stock that looked the part "that was about it " it wasn't consent enough for what I wanted ok for but hitting beer can size targets ok I later found out that you need to tune these sometimes to make the better