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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    So, just thinking about a couple of my 35s at the moment.

    I have three later ones with the synthetic seals.

    And two earlier ones. One's the old pre-safety warhorse.....I'll come to that later.

    This relates to one I bought a few years ago but have only just got round to stripping. It's a single-sided safety version. Larger transfer port to suit the leather seal. Just prior to stripping it I had a couple of shots with it. Even though I didn't use the chrono, it was apparent that power is low. First shot was accompanied by a hell of a crack. Felt harsh - trigger finger was ringing!

    Upon stripping - trigger was full of gunge and felt "sticky". Now flushed and lubed and feels fine.

    Piston seal felt quite a loose fit - too "easy" to slide.

    Cocking lever movement was impeded towards end of stroke. The knuckle was tight. Freed off and oiled. Now good. But cocking lever is difficult to re-engage and slide back in cylinder - some material to relieve.

    Now, I was thinking of short-stroking it as I'm not after power and wanted to improve its manners. And then I remembered that the previous owner had given me the leather head and seal - the piston isn't the later type. Happy days! So re-fitting the leather seal will suit the larger TP better. Tighter fit will improve manners, as will a new breech seal, as that looks goosed too. I've searched out and located the leather head. Just need to inspect. It'll be nice to have at least one running on the leather seal.

    Tinbum kit received on Christmas Eve. I'll need to cut the spring down. Kit looks lovely. I'd asked for the short stroking head(s). So, once this one's done, I might short stroke the other older one as I'd fitted the later piston to that five years ago. Or might search out an older piston and go back to leather on that one as well......

    Will update as things come together...
    Not wishing to distract from your post but I have been thinking of doing similar.
    Mine is the rare HW35L or Luxus Monte Carlo as it was sometimes called. Actually better grain beech with nicely chequered grip woodwork which I describe as being halfway between the regular beech stock of the 80s and the luxury Walnut export.
    I was lucky to not get a leaky breech, but I've basically worn the gun out. Literally 100s of Rooks during the 80s and a few too many plinking sessions.
    I am thinking of buying a new one, with the benefits of the latest seal and TP design but fitting it into this superb Luxus stock as I hate the new stocks compared to this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad3 View Post
    Not wishing to distract from your post but I have been thinking of doing similar.
    Mine is the rare HW35L or Luxus Monte Carlo as it was sometimes called. Actually better grain beech with nicely chequered grip woodwork which I describe as being halfway between the regular beech stock of the 80s and the luxury Walnut export.
    I was lucky to not get a leaky breech, but I've basically worn the gun out. Literally 100s of Rooks during the 80s and a few too many plinking sessions.
    I am thinking of buying a new one, with the benefits of the latest seal and TP design but fitting it into this superb Luxus stock as I hate the new stocks compared to this one.
    what bits are worn out ?
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. But not lathes. I have too many lathes. Thanks, JB.

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    ARC Tuning are doing some good drop in kits for the 35 these days. Mach 1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach 1.5 View Post
    ARC Tuning are doing some good drop in kits for the 35 these days. Mach 1.5
    does that include a glided piston Paul?
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    They don't I'm sorry to say. Mach 1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by john79 View Post
    does that include a glided piston Paul?
    I’ve got a glided piston if you was to want to purchase it off of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    I’ve got a glided piston if you was to want to purchase it off of me.
    Thank's for the offer but i will pass thankyou.
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    Thinking, thinking, new arm or not?.....,..Once I've ground down enough of the existing arm to give the necessary clearance, will it be okay? Or do I get that new one ordered today, knowing how much the new arm improved the other oldie?.....All I did prior to fitting the new arm was to oil the hinge and work it like crazy for some time to loosen the joint......

    Think I'm going to go new and be done with it.

    Need to get this done and put to bed before looking at the old-school 50 and then having a good look at the arms on my 99s and 30s.....too many guns to tinker when all I really should be doing is picking them up and enjoying shooting them.....l
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    Quote Originally Posted by john79 View Post
    Thank's for the offer but i will pass thankyou.
    No worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed tuner View Post
    what bits are worn out ?
    Ive got wear into the side of the breech block section caused by the barrel lock lever.
    1000s of rounds.
    It still functions but unsightly.
    Trigger probably requires stripping and parts replacing. Main sear looks badly worn.
    Lost a fair bit of bluing here and there.
    Have considered a project rebuild of course but the latest reports on much better performance from the new seal versions might just be an easier option. (Cost is of no consequence in my choice)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad3 View Post
    Not wishing to distract from your post but I have been thinking of doing similar.
    Mine is the rare HW35L or Luxus Monte Carlo as it was sometimes called. Actually better grain beech with nicely chequered grip woodwork which I describe as being halfway between the regular beech stock of the 80s and the luxury Walnut export.
    I was lucky to not get a leaky breech, but I've basically worn the gun out. Literally 100s of Rooks during the 80s and a few too many plinking sessions.
    I am thinking of buying a new one, with the benefits of the latest seal and TP design but fitting it into this superb Luxus stock as I hate the new stocks compared to this one.
    Actually, the 35 luxus you have is a Walnut stock, not beech. Mine came up very nice when refurbished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad3 View Post
    Not wishing to distract from your post but I have been thinking of doing similar.
    Mine is the rare HW35L or Luxus Monte Carlo as it was sometimes called. Actually better grain beech with nicely chequered grip woodwork which I describe as being halfway between the regular beech stock of the 80s and the luxury Walnut export.
    I was lucky to not get a leaky breech, but I've basically worn the gun out. Literally 100s of Rooks during the 80s and a few too many plinking sessions.
    I am thinking of buying a new one, with the benefits of the latest seal and TP design but fitting it into this superb Luxus stock as I hate the new stocks compared to this one.
    I too have a 35 luxus stock (square forend with no groove, chequered grip and raised cheek piece) which is made from walnut. I have never heard of one being produced in beech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchstop View Post
    I too have a 35 luxus stock (square forend with no groove, chequered grip and raised cheek piece) which is made from walnut. I have never heard of one being produced in beech?
    Thanks fellas, For some dumb reason I had always considered it Beech, not having anything like the figuring of the Walnut Export, I assumed it good beech. Mine is a bit like the regular beech, nice and dark but with bit more grain.
    Mine has the Bavarian comb and rounded base of grip with very fine tradition chequering. Maybe the best chequring I've seen on an air rifle stock.

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    I love the Luxus and Export stocks.
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    No play time today. Shopping and house duties earlier and I'm out for a meal shortly (work colleague retiring).

    Tomorrow's out too as I have an eye injection in the morning.
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