BSA Airsporter Stutzen info needed please

[robs5230]

I'm lucky enough to have acquired one of these from a friend

Its a .177 carbine version, in rather lovely original condition.
So I have some questions for those who may know something about these rifles

Is it easy to date these? Mine is a tap loader, but has the raised maxi grip rail, and the williams type adjustable rear sight, and an adjustable foresight. From what I've read, these models were made up to the early 90's

What sort of muzzle energy should these make, in good mechanical order?

Has anyone successfully fitted scope mounts, that give reasonable cheek weld and eye relief, or are they best left with the fitted opens (which offer great cheek weld)?

Thanks in advance
Rob

[ashf9999]

Is it one like this?

https://timdysonairguns.co.uk/produc...le-sn-pw-3209/

[robs5230]

Is it one like this?

https://timdysonairguns.co.uk/produc...le-sn-pw-3209/

Hi, no.

The one in the pic looks to be an RB2 with a rear safety
Mine is a tap loader, and the end block is higher, with the top of it meeting the maxi grip rail

[KWK1]

Leupold rings or CCOP fit the 14mm rails and available in low mount. Same set up on my Challenger. I have 4 or 5 Stutzens.

[robs5230]

Leupold rings or CCOP fit the 14mm rails and available in low mount. Same set up on my Challenger. I have 4 or 5 Stutzens.

Thanks very much for that
Do you have the model number of those mounts please?
Cheers

[KWK1]

CCOP A1001NL
Leupold 57405

[KWK1]

BSA serial # date lists are available several places online. Ask for BSA air rifle serial # or you will get motorcycles instead.

[robs5230]

CCOP A1001NL
Leupold 57405

Thanks
No hits on either on google

[robs5230]

BSA serial # date lists are available several places online. Ask for BSA air rifle serial # or you will get motorcycles instead.

Thanks
ET prefix so 1985/1986

[look no hands]

You should be able to get over 11ftp with no troubles, just make sure all the internals are in good condition and if you can, fit a Welsh Willy spring kit and it will shoot nicely, my Airsporter S carbine which is an identical action to yours, is lovely to shoot, you may have problems finding the right pellet for it as they preferred the 5.6 Wasps, mine seems alright with Air Arms pellets.

[KWK1]

Thanks
No hits on either on google

I look on the bay US and get 3000 results for .22 mounts. Many different brands. UK site only shows 256 and half aren't mounts. Must be somebody crimping your market.

I don't know anywhere else to get something to fit correctly. That's the issue with the BSA rails. BSA market rings too but they don't even make mounts for their own spring rifles. Even the recently released CLX. They first did this in 1959 on the Mk1 Meteor and then the Mk2 Airsporters. 15.5mm. Do they ever learn from experiences?
BTW Millet rings fit the Mk2 Airsporters and Mk1 Meteors if they can be had in UK?

[robs5230]

I look on the bay US and get 3000 results for .22 mounts. Many different brands. UK site only shows 256 and half aren't mounts. Must be somebody crimping your market.

I don't know anywhere else to get something to fit correctly. That's the issue with the BSA rails. BSA market rings too but they don't even make mounts for their own spring rifles. Even the recently released CLX. They first did this in 1959 on the Mk1 Meteor and then the Mk2 Airsporters. 15.5mm. Do they ever learn from experiences?
BTW Millet rings fit the Mk2 Airsporters and Mk1 Meteors if they can be had in UK?

BSA did one mount for the 14mm maxi grip
As they no longer use it, the mounts are getting rare too
It was a one piece mount. I'd rather have 2pc for a bit of wriggle room

[robs5230]

You should be able to get over 11ftp with no troubles, just make sure all the internals are in good condition and if you can, fit a Welsh Willy spring kit and it will shoot nicely, my Airsporter S carbine which is an identical action to yours, is lovely to shoot, you may have problems finding the right pellet for it as they preferred the 5.6 Wasps, mine seems alright with Air Arms pellets.

Its making 10ftlb with JSB and over 11 with RWS.
Fit and healthy I guess, if not a bit buzzy

[crowbar]

On my Airsporters I use a one piece mount and mill 20 mm off the clamping dovetails so it sits over the trigger block .

[joffy]

Only made for a few years and you did well getting the .177 as they're rarer than the .22 they were a transitional model between the tap loader and the RB2 models.