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    Doing it standing up?

    The dreaded unsupported standing shot in HFT. PCP and recoiling.

    Stances hacks hand and foot positions hints and tips, what you got for us?

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    Bell target, it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unframed Dave View Post
    Bell target, it helps.

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    Great idea!

    Where can a club buy one of the mechanisms?

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    I shoot 7yd indoor target, with just a pellet trap and 8 targetcard. This is a bit of AI coaching:

    Body Alignment:
    Ensure your hips are perpendicular to the firing line and the rifle is positioned over the center of your feet.
    Foot Placement:
    Experiment with foot placement to find a comfortable and stable base. Some shooters find that slightly angling their body back can improve balance, according to a Reddit thread. I normally tend to try to lock off my leading leg and lean my hips back slightly to get a consistent body position
    Elbow Position:
    Your dominant elbow should be positioned comfortably, and your non-dominant elbow should ideally be rested against your chest for support, according to Wikipedia.
    Natural Point of Aim:
    Find a stance where your rifle naturally points towards the target when you bring your arm up to shoulder height, as suggested on AirGun Forums.
    Relaxation:
    Maintain a relaxed and comfortable posture to avoid muscle fatigue and maintain accuracy.

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    Shoulder width stance, and be a little tea pot.
    Stick lead hip out and jam lead elbow into hip.
    My arms are too short so elbow is jammed into ribs and rifle rests on knuckles or fingers rather than palm of my hand, suppose big hamster would help but then ya risk the top heavy wobble.
    Practice shooting or not.
    If ya muscles ache too much then they are either weak or stance is not correct.
    I used to do reps like training at first, hold rifle aiming high, then lower to level, then low, then repeat holding each position for 10.
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    I don't do FT or HFT, but there are only two standing unsupported ways of doing it. Depends on the size of target that needs hitting, and how repeatable.

    Sporting, which is basically going for it. Mount and shoot within a few seconds. There are a few methods of how to do this but they all require loads of practice and rhythm. Absolute precision is difficult but hits are easy enough. Can go very wrong when done badly, so all about consistency and concentration. The too heavier the rifle makes it even more tricky. Everything is in that micro second of perfect hold to sight picture on target, to trigger let off.
    I like to come up on target, hold, and release. Don't hold too long, but start again when things do go wrong.

    Target, which is hold a position for an almost unlimited time to let the shot off. Exactly depends on what position you can hold, with rifle slings or bone to hip to body holds. The position needs practice to find and train the position so it gives the steadiness to maintain the sight picture and trigger the shot away perfectly. Done well, as in 6m, 10m, Bell target, then small targets can be hit again and again. The hold allows for breathing cycles with the rifle on target. The Olympians get to steady to heartbeat levels. That takes some training. Relaxation techniques help. A reasonably heavy rifle helps too. Body shape dictates rifle shape, design, and what body contortion gets the desirable stable platform.

    Look at what others are having to do. Then work out what you can do to improve your hold.
    Every marksmanship detail you do in the prone, on the bench, are still valid, just on a jelly platform that is you.
    All takes quite a bit of effort to first find a way that works for you. Don't dismiss a technique from a disappointing first start, as most need more than a casual try to just see their real potential. Once decided, then takes some concerted practice to reenforce the technique to work repeatedly.

    I sport shoot standing because my back goes into pain spasm if I try to hold Target stances. Sadly my back is too damaged from life's adventures.
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    Leant against a fridge or counter, tis only way I can without going A over T.
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    Washing machine on spin?

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    I enjoy shooting unsupported,but need to practice a lot more.
    I’ve tried the Tea pot (Target style) with the elbow on the hip position but find it weird for me.
    I shoot using the sporting hold ( most of the weight of the gun on my left hand) but tend to fire off the shot too quickly before the wobbles set in.
    Les..

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    This in heaps ^

    Target holds demand rifle accessories like slings and stock designs; all sorts. Still a body distortion and never that comfortable.
    Sporting demands technique and practice, and only ever gives a fraction of time to fire off perfect.

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    I do OK on the 9yd range with junior rifles.
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    Watch how Biathletes do it, stick your hip out & try to support your elbow, or jam your elbow in to your gut above the belt

    Don't try to hold a steady aim, allow POI to move up & down with your breathing,
    then control & slow your breathing until you can stop & snap shoot the millisecond you have the target.

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    Some great stuff here.

    Good to know it is kind of a snap-shooting kind of thing, I tend to dwell on the aim so it’s ok to just get the thing lined up and let fly.

    For some reason I never thought to actually practice!

    The mention that a hamster makes the rifle top-heavy was enlightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskett View Post
    Washing machine on spin?
    With what my meds do on occasion might not make a difference lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Some great stuff here.

    Good to know it is kind of a snap-shooting kind of thing, I tend to dwell on the aim so it’s ok to just get the thing lined up and let fly.

    For some reason I never thought to actually practice!

    The mention that a hamster makes the rifle top-heavy was enlightening.
    Snap shot but not rushed shot, still take all the time ya can. Its kind of a feeling rather than timing when you are on. And yes practice.
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