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Thread: Carbining a Tornado?

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    Ive just seen my new monica!

    The phrase - Silk purse out of a sows ear springs to my mind.

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    carbining tornado

    I restored one for a freind & the barrel fell out while working on it! Think they're silver soldered in. You'd be much better off shortening it from the breech end if you can remove the barrel. I had an old but straight airsporter spring & honed out the piston as it wasn't parralell inside & causing the spring to bind halfway through cocking & it shot a LOT better than before at about 8.5 ft/lbs. Still a swamp donkey though. The relum break barrel earlier guns were much better & more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T 20 View Post
    Hi Guy

    Sorry for the late reply.

    I haven't got any pictures of any Tornado O ring conversions, , but I do have some of the Relum junior piston I did which is exactly the same.

    first off a bit of decapitation.

    http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSCF1253.jpg

    then I machined up the new piston head from brass, I machined it to take a standard BSA Meteor O ring and threaded the tail of the new head at 1/4" unf.

    http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSCF1276.jpg

    when the new head is fitted to the piston with a nylock nut it looks like this.

    http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...s/DSCF1296.jpg

    I used a Meteor MK5 spring and spring guide in the Tornado, though I think the Meteor MK6 spring could have worked better.



    Jim Tyler showed a synthetic seal conversion in AGW where he used a 26mm Weihrauch seal on a homemade adaptor.





    Hi Dave

    If you need any help with the Fume Bluing give me a shout --- I'm always happy to help.




    All the best Mick
    Hi, I know this is an old thread but intresting !
    You need to start with the medium stroke length Tornado , Or not bother ,
    As was said, The cocking mechanism provides very little in the way of mechanical advantage ?

    Having said that, The medium length cylinder & a 26mm piston has Enough swept volume for an easy 11 Fpe.
    To reiterate ! The Medium length cylinder is 20mm longer than the standard , & The Export is 20mm longer than that , You be the judge ?

    When I made the " Opposing Piston " Thingy, I used Relum parts,
    Here is a piston I machined shorter , To reduce the stroke length I machined & Added a substantial piston weight, Drilled & Tapped to accept the machined PTFE Piston heads , I made & Still have a couple but they only fit the modified pistons.
    Here is one, Tacked up Etc,


    I am not saying the Tornado or its copies are great guns !
    They were in an era of average " Cheap" guns ,
    The break barrels perform much better than the Tap loaders, & the super export is a good performer , Again in my opinion , Thats capable of more than our limit in break barrel form

    Believe it or not ? As Ripley said . Ged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Ive just seen my new monica!
    and and

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    and and
    And a Happy New Year to you to.
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