BSA Airsporter Stutzen info needed please

[joffy]

Sportsmatch does mounts for the 13mm rails T06C or Wulf sell them too branded for them but are sportsmatch

[KWK1]

Sportsmatch does mounts for the 13mm rails T06C or Wulf sell them too branded for them but are sportsmatch

The problem is they don't come in a low height. Combined with the rail you are now at a high mount height. Way too high. Been there.
That's why I recommend a vertically split 2 piece low mount. And as shown in my earlier post of my Challenger, it puts the scope where it belongs.
Evidently the mounts I recommend aren't available in UK

[joffy]

The problem is they don't come in a low height. Combined with the rail you are now at a high mount height. Way too high. Been there.
That's why I recommend a vertically split 2 piece low mount. And as shown in my earlier post of my Challenger, it puts the scope where it belongs.
Evidently the mounts I recommend aren't available in UK

We used to get the nikko Stirling split mounts like the Warne mounts

[robs5230]

The problem is they don't come in a low height. Combined with the rail you are now at a high mount height. Way too high. Been there.
That's why I recommend a vertically split 2 piece low mount. And as shown in my earlier post of my Challenger, it puts the scope where it belongs.
Evidently the mounts I recommend aren't available in UK

Hi
Still haven't had any luck on either of the mounts you suggested

But, I did find these vertically split 2p low mounts at Ant Supplies
Hoping they're near enough to work and they're cheap enough to take a punt on at a tenner a pair

https://www.ant-supplies.uk/scope-ri...cal-split.html

[joffy]

You should be able to get over 11ftp with no troubles, just make sure all the internals are in good condition and if you can, fit a Welsh Willy spring kit and it will shoot nicely, my Airsporter S carbine which is an identical action to yours, is lovely to shoot, you may have problems finding the right pellet for it as they preferred the 5.6 Wasps, mine seems alright with Air Arms pellets.

The Stutsen and the carbine share the same actions neither use the S action

[KWK1]

We used to get the nikko Stirling split mounts like the Warne mounts

I have a set of the Nikko in medium. The Warne are good. I have them (split)in steel on my Winchester 52 sporter that required bases, it has no dovetails, holding a Leupold 2-7x28 rf scope. Purchased over 30 years ago.

[joffy]

I have a set of the Nikko in medium. The Warne are good. I have them (split)in steel on my Winchester 52 sporter that required bases, it has no dovetails, holding a Leupold 2-7x28 rf scope. Purchased over 30 years ago.

Bought my carbine new in 1986 after a search in almost every gunshop around .....ended up going to London for a day out to pick it up ....I wish I'd bought a .177 challenger also

[KWK1]

Hi
Still haven't had any luck on either of the mounts you suggested

But, I did find these vertically split 2p low mounts at Ant Supplies
Hoping they're near enough to work and they're cheap enough to take a punt on at a tenner a pair

https://www.ant-supplies.uk/scope-ri...cal-split.html

Those look identical to the Leupolds I have. Now I know where to recommend purchasing them in UK
I think they're a bit wide at the bottom but otherwise excellent for the purpose. I'm used to seeing them on my Challenger now. Perfect height for me. PLEASE let me know how they work for you.

I'm putting 3 Stutzens up for sale in US. 2 RB2 in 177 and a tap loader in .22. Still have another tap loader. Have to reduce the herd, I horded too many.

[robs5230]

Those look identical to the Leupolds I have. Now I know where to recommend purchasing them in UK
I think they're a bit wide at the bottom but otherwise excellent for the purpose. I'm used to seeing them on my Challenger now. Perfect height for me. PLEASE let me know how they work for you.

I'm putting 3 Stutzens up for sale in US. 2 RB2 in 177 and a tap loader in .22. Still have another tap loader. Have to reduce the herd, I horded too many.

Ant supplies are very good at replicating, hard to get items
I will update
Thanks

[look no hands]

The Stutsen and the carbine share the same actions neither use the S action

The later Stutzen, carbine and S, use the same action, the S has the longer barrel but the cylinders and internals are the same, the very last S model (mk3 I believe) used the deluxe beech stock, like what's fitted to the carbine model, it just has the longer barrel, BSA where crafty and just swapped stocks around (beech and walnut) and barrel lengths and called them different models, the trigger mechanics differed if it had the shotgun style safety fitted, the Stutzen obviously had the barrel band fitted with no side mounting stock screws.

[robs5230]

Those look identical to the Leupolds I have. Now I know where to recommend purchasing them in UK
I think they're a bit wide at the bottom but otherwise excellent for the purpose. I'm used to seeing them on my Challenger now. Perfect height for me. PLEASE let me know how they work for you.

I'm putting 3 Stutzens up for sale in US. 2 RB2 in 177 and a tap loader in .22. Still have another tap loader. Have to reduce the herd, I horded too many.

The mounts from Ant Supplies are spot on
Lovely and low and fit the dovetails great. A nice find and look very period too.

[robs5230]

Just a little update on the Stutzen

Managed to take it out to the club yesterday and give it a run out
The mounts work
They are low enough to give good repeatable cheek weld, and allow the scope to come far enough back for correct eye relief
The scope I've chosen (wulf 2-7x32) is quite long for a 2-7 (well longer than the airmax) which helps, but the objective bell comes quite close to the front of the maxi grip rail. Any movement of the scope and it will collide with the rail. Thankfully the mounts have held well. A longer scope would be a bit better, but as yet I'm stuck for ideas as I like the half mil dot ret of the wulf, and want to keep to 32mm objective.

I'd read a blog (Pyramidair), which stated that RWS superpoint shot well in these. As I happened to have a tin, bought in a bundle of bits, I thought I'd try them. The suggestion was that the thin rear skirt, helped sealing. Chronoing them supported this theory, or seemed to, with the 8.2g superpoint making a whole ftlb over a 7.9g express. Of course the rifle, could be a bit oversprung, but that's something I'm not rushing into at present.

As the MV was 776 with the SP, I sort of (not very smartly) anticipated a similar trajectory to my usual express at that velocity, so chose a similar zero distance
Started at a meagre 20 yards, and was pleasantly surprised to get tight cloverleaf groups, after zeroing. after noting the rifle needed to be firmly pulled into the shoulder to get consistent POI.

Out to 30 yards, and was rewarded with the same cloverleaf groups. This was already beyond where I'd expected to be able to shoot the Stutzen, but thought why not, and started shooting the knockdowns. With my estimated (at that point) usual aim points, I took the 35, 40 and 50 yard knockdowns, with little effort (40 yard knockdown had been removed for some reason)
The 50 was only just a hit, but was a hit
I couldn't get the 55 yard one
When I returned home, I ran the settings through Mero, to realise the heavier weight and lower BC of the superpoint, meant they started to nose dive at about 50 yards. I've now chosen a more suitable zero distance, that gives my the exact same aim points that I use with express, right out to 50 yards. I think I'll be able to estimate hold over for the 55.

In summary, I'm quite blown away, with how well this rifle shoots, considering the pellet (superpoint) is one that I've felt for some years, is only fit for melting down. In fact I've just ordered some more superpoint from our sponsor, JSR.
I haven't owned an Airsporter since 1982 and had pretty much dismissed it, as a viable shooter. How wrong was I?

Niggles with the rifle?
Trigger. Very reminiscent of the one on my CZ455 and not a good air rifle trigger
Twang / buzz. It's there and I'd rather it wasn't.
But, I'm inclined not to attempt to change either at present, as it shoots so well